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Old 12-02-2013, 07:38 AM   #211
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What body are you guys running also?
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Old 12-02-2013, 08:52 AM   #212
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What body are you guys running also?
Depends on the class you are running. I personally will pretty much always run an AMR, but a lot of guys will use the BA Audi r8 for stock. I think the AMR is pretty much the only choice for mod, though, unless you run on really low traction and want to use the TR.
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Old 12-02-2013, 08:56 AM   #213
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Front End -
Caster: all shims rearward
Camber: 1° (to start)
Toe: 0°
Kingpin lube: 10 -15k (I'm using Shurlube Purple)
Droop: .50 - .75mm
Spring: AE .018 (vbc silver)
Width: 166/7-ish
Tyres: CRC/BSR Black (42mm/rounded) Jaco Black (41.5mm rounded)
Ride height: 4mm
Rear End -
Center Shock: vbc (dimple drilled out. 60-70wt/silver spring) or HB (35wt/AE blue spring)....don't be afraid to go even a bit higher in wt w/the vbc shock.
Shock mount: upper position
Pod Droop (no sag): 1mm over RH
Side Springs/preload: vbc silver or AE black (just touching, then go 1 full turn)
Tube lube: 15k (I'm using Shurlube Green)
Width: 172mm
Tyres: CRC/BSR Gray/Whites (43mm/rounded) Jaco Yellow (43mm/ rounded)
Ride Height: 4mm
Body: My preference is the CRC Black Art R8. A lot of folks like the Proto AMR12 though.

I think that's it. HTHs
And if your racing budget allows, you can go slightly smaller on the tyre size.
Also to get more life outta your front .018's, you can use .018's from AE's 10R5.1 (just use less shims up top)
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Old 12-02-2013, 09:12 AM   #214
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I borrowed a stock ride from erlich on Saturday night and it was absolutely dialed..

Thanks dave! Pure domination lmao

If anyone is running stock you NEED Dave's setup!
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Old 12-02-2013, 09:21 AM   #215
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I borrowed a stock ride from erlich on Saturday night and it was absolutely dialed..

Thanks dave! Pure domination lmao

If anyone is running stock you NEED Dave's setup!
Thanks but I don't think Dave is sharing right now. Oh well... that is the setup I was after but at this point I'm going to try what was just posted.
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Front End -
Caster: all shims rearward
Camber: 1° (to start)
Toe: 0°
Kingpin lube: 10 -15k (I'm using Shurlube Purple)
Droop: .50 - .75mm
Spring: AE .018 (vbc silver)
Width: 168-ish
Tyres: CRC Black (42mm/rounded) Jaco Black (41.5mm rounded)
Ride height: 4mm
Rear End -
Center Shock: vbc (dimple drilled out. 60-70wt/silver spring) or HB (35wt/AE blue spring)....don't be afraid to go even a bit higher in wt w/the vbc shock.
Shock mount: upper position
Pod Droop (no sag): 1mm over RH
Side Springs/preload: vbc silver or AE black (just touching, then go 1 full turn)
Tube lube: 15k (I'm using Shurlube Green)
Width: 172mm
Tyres: CRC Gray/Whites (43mm/rounded) Jaco Yellow (43mm/ rounded)
Ride Height: 4mm
Body: My preference is the CRC Black Art R8. A lot of folks like the Proto AMR12 though.

I think that's it. HTHs
And if your racing budget allows, you can go slightly smaller on the tyre size.
Also to get more life outta your front .018's, you can use .018's from AE's 10R5.1 (just use less shims up top)
Thank you to my fellow shock less tc brother.
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Center Shock: vbc (dimple drilled out. 60-70wt/silver spring) or HB (35wt/AE blue spring)....don't be afraid to go even a bit higher in wt w/the vbc shock.
How are you not oil less? I didn't even drill it out, just punctured the dimple and the oil is everywhere. Are you re-sealing the hole? how?
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How are you not oil less? I didn't even drill it out, just punctured the dimple and the oil is everywhere. Are you re-sealing the hole? how?
You have the o-ring guard placed correctly and the various o-rings are fully-seated, right?
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You have the o-ring guard placed correctly and the various o-rings are fully-seated, right?
Yes, the o-ring in the top cap is in the hole, but that isn't going to seal that section of the shock will it?
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Thanks mark that's what I was looking for. You rock man. wish you were on the east coast my friend. I will eventually make it out to your track.. Now let's get Dave or someone to put up some setup sheets.. At this point in my area I know of 2 lightnings and I have 1 of them. We need some support out here. Blake has the other one and he is a 1/12 guy. I'm a shockless tc guy.

I just ordered some of these from lunsfordracing.com to put in my car.
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How are you not oil less? I didn't even drill it out, just punctured the dimple and the oil is everywhere. Are you re-sealing the hole? how?
You shouldn't be oil-less.
I've built 2 of these shocks with the dimple drilled out. 1 with 3 hole piston and the other with the 2-hole. When you fill the shock, you may have oil sitting atop the last white plastic 'hat' piece. Remove all of it. That's what you see coming out of the thru hole. I've had no leakage after I've figured that out. Also I like the idea of soaking those orings as long as you can before assembling then coating the top one heavily with green slime ( as Korey Harbke suggested).
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Old 12-02-2013, 12:13 PM   #222
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I just ordered some of these from lunsfordracing.com to put in my car.
camber turnbuckles
3 x 16mm Titanium Turnbuckles
Code: 1001
Price: $11.50

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1 5/8" Punisher Plus Titanium Turnbuckles
Code: 1066
Price: $13.45
Thanks for the help. Going to ask my lhs to pick those up for me.
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Thanks but I don't think Dave is sharing right now. Oh well... that is the setup I was after but at this point I'm going to try what was just posted.
Shoot, well maybe it's not ready yet, but hen he does post it u guys are in for a treat lol

I think I was the first person to run it on a track other than timezone, so maybe he wanted to see how it worked
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Shoot, well maybe it's not ready yet, but hen he does post it u guys are in for a treat lol

I think I was the first person to run it on a track other than timezone, so maybe he wanted to see how it worked
I sure hope so. I know how it is on the awesomatix side people want setups quickly. especially at first because not many were running the car. The lightning isnt being run locally either. I purchased one after picking up a Flash. If you can get Dave to post it up that would be great. In my part of town most people run 17.5. Lot's of fast dudes running Top Rebel 12's and i wanted to go against the grain.
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I run the top car, I wanted to see how the vbc drove, in stock it was just super easy to drive , very predictable.. Lots of corner speed, overall I was impressed. Tires let out in the main but still got the W
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