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Old 02-12-2014, 03:28 PM   #766
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Hi all,

I've read on a lot of setup sheets that drivers are running the thin, 2.25 mm bottom deck. I can't really afford it, plus it would require taking the entire car apart...

Anyway, would running the thin, 1.6 mm top deck have a similar effect? I imagine running a thin bottom deck increases chassis flex, and running a thin top deck would also increase chassis flex? Is this better on all surfaces, including carpet?

If anyone has thoughts on running the thin top deck with the standard bottom deck, I'd love to know what your experiences have been!

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P.S. On a side note, I've been having a little trouble with the shocks leaking. Has anyone else run into this? I'm not the best at building shocks though, just to say. I've heard AE Green Slime grease on the O-ring works well to seal shocks. Any thoughts?
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Old 02-12-2014, 03:31 PM   #767
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The only thing I have broken on the car is a rear axle and the front bumper foam. I installed the hard foam bumper and it is HARD.
The rear axle broke when I got T-boned by another car right on the rear wheel.
I've found the car very durable as well. I even had a high-speed crash on the straight-away. The battery got ejected from the car as it rolled half way down the straight... Embarrassing, yes, but nothing broke! Except the Hudy strapping tape holding the battery in haha...
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My shocks don't leak much. My son's t4 shocks leak more.
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I got a tech tip! It you pump the shock up and down on the car, you'll feel a thump in them. This is due to the play between the e-clips and pistons on the shock shafts. To eliminate this place a 300 micron shim under the piston then put the piston on. Next put the e-clip back on top of the piston. It should be tight. And take some effort to get the e-clip on.
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I always thought it was the bladder flexing. Now I know. Thx.
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My shocks don't leak much. My son's t4 shocks leak more.
Ed, your sons T4 shocks shouldn't leak at all if done properly.
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I got a tech tip! It you pump the shock up and down on the car, you'll feel a thump in them. This is due to the play between the e-clips and pistons on the shock shafts. To eliminate this place a 300 micron shim under the piston then put the piston on. Next put the e-clip back on top of the piston. It should be tight. And take some effort to get the e-clip on.
This is correct. We actually use a 100 micron shim both above and below the shock piston.

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Ed, your sons T4 shocks shouldn't leak at all if done properly.
Neither should these when built properly.
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This is correct. We actually use a 100 micron shim both above and below the shock piston.



Neither should these when built properly.
Where do you get shims that thin?



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Where do you get shims that thin?



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We have them on our site, just search shims pack.

We've made a lot of changes as well as recent brand and product additions, so the site navigation has changed a tad.
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P.S. On a side note, I've been having a little trouble with the shocks leaking. Has anyone else run into this? I'm not the best at building shocks though, just to say. I've heard AE Green Slime grease on the O-ring works well to seal shocks. Any thoughts?
Try putting a .2mm shim in between the shock body and the plastic guide that goes before the o ring. That'll compress the o ring a bit and give the shock a better seal. Green slime will help also, but my shocks with the shim have been leak free since day one.
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Where do you get shims that thin?



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If you bought your car new. Some shims came in your kit. The 300 micron or marked 0.3 and the 100's are 0.1

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Not sure if this has been mentioned before or not but another tech tip. Any less than 2mm of Ackerman spacers and the 7.5mm ball connectors will hit the steering arms before full lock. Pay to replace ball connectors with 5mm ones.
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Try putting a .2mm shim in between the shock body and the plastic guide that goes before the o ring. That'll compress the o ring a bit and give the shock a better seal. Green slime will help also, but my shocks with the shim have been leak free since day one.
Exactly, this is something that we have done since day one and have never had any issues with out shocks. Be sure that you do not go overboard with the shims as too many will bind the shock.

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Not sure if this has been mentioned before or not but another tech tip. Any less than 2mm of Ackerman spacers and the 7.5mm ball connectors will hit the steering arms before full lock. Pay to replace ball connectors with 5mm ones.
Great tip!
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Are the stock turnbuckles fairly strong or are you guys replacing them?
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Are the stock turnbuckles fairly strong or are you guys replacing them?
IMO they're strong. Ive had some hard crashes and they're straight. None of the locals running the car have had issues with them either.
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