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Old 12-30-2013, 02:34 PM   #466
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Lol they have been trimmed now. Although they really do stop it sitting on its roof after rolling.lol
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Old 01-03-2014, 06:53 AM   #467
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did a mod to my shocks today. Ive never been happy with my shocks. They always seem to have air in them. After talking with nick from demonpowerproducts about some things he did to his i ordered the xray t4 shock diaphrams and trf damper bushings. You have to be careful when sitting the diaphrams on as they arent as wide as the hobao ones and you must make sure the bushings are in the center. I put them together and used trf 25wt oil as thats what i have been using. The shocks now feel amazing. Never have they felt like they do now. Il see how it handles next sunday.
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Old 01-03-2014, 08:51 AM   #468
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have you ever tried converting to emulsion shocks?
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Old 01-03-2014, 09:58 AM   #469
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Not tried converting to emulsion shocks. Never been a fan of the idea
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Old 01-03-2014, 10:09 AM   #470
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based on your complaints with bladder shocks, it sounds to me like you may want to consider experimenting with emulsion, especially for the rear shocks if you want to get more rear traction, more info here that might be worth a read:
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Old 01-03-2014, 11:56 AM   #471
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I dont have a problem with bladder shocks, its just the ones that were on the hobao i wasnt keen on
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Old 01-03-2014, 12:34 PM   #472
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Just to clarify, you are effectively removing the amount of air allowed in the stock bladders by using "shock diaphragms" + bushings to displace the area where the air is normally located... by doing this you are purchasing an additional part at cost, where converting to an emulsion shock is a zero cost change (by simply cutting the bladder off the rubber seal) with nearly the same net result by restricting how much air is mixed in with the shock, where less air equates to less bounce and less bounce equates to greater traction, to a point where no rebound occurs when no air is mixed in the chamber.

The main difference with using "shock diaphragms" + bushings is that the air mixture is guaranteed to be identical, however you are limited how much air you can mix in the bladder... with emulsion shocks, there is no limit to how much air you want to mix... with infinite adjust-ability.

I like to think of emulsion shocks as the ball diff equivalent to air/bleed mixture where bladder shocks are the gear diff equivalent.

Since you're already tossing the stock bladders anyway, I don't see any harm in experimenting with a couple of them to see if emulsion suits your handling any better.
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Old 01-03-2014, 01:45 PM   #473
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I will have a play cutting the old bladders and running them back to back. the only concern i have with trying them as emulsion shocks is that there is a hole in the side of the top cap, would this not result in oil squirting out of this ( Maybe a silly question but i have never tried an emulsion shock)
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Old 01-03-2014, 02:06 PM   #474
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having bleeder holes aren't necessary, pretty decent video here explaining how simple they are to convert:

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Old 01-05-2014, 07:47 PM   #475
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Old 01-06-2014, 12:01 AM   #476
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Would you be able to post your setup please?

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ALBOP, sorry to take so long getting back. The setup that follows is for 17.5 non-ramping TC on med. to high bite asphault. I am only listing the part(s) of setup that vary from the kit. FRONT: cmbr.=-1.25 deg., fr. sprg. grn., fr. upper shk. loc.=3rd in, lower=outside, cmbr. lnk.= 1mm outer, fr. rl.ctr. shim= 1mm, diff. ht. adjstr. 9:00. REAR: cmbr.=-1.25deg., r.sprng.=grn., toe=2.7deg.,upper shk. loc.,=4th in, lower= outside, diff=Kyosho 700wt., diff. ht. adjstr.=4:00 Air temp 63f., track temp 66 to 82f., Team Powers premounts, 34 compound, full sauce, f.& r., Team Powers tire sauce. Aluminum spacer installed between chassis plate and upper deck. Please use my previous post for steering stop screw and servo arm setup. Chris S. LETZ RACE!!
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ALBOP, sorry to take so long getting back. The setup that follows is for 17.5 non-ramping TC on med. to high bite asphault. I am only listing the part(s) of setup that vary from the kit. FRONT: cmbr.=-1.25 deg., fr. sprg. grn., fr. upper shk. loc.=3rd in, lower=outside, cmbr. lnk.= 1mm outer, fr. rl.ctr. shim= 1mm, diff. ht. adjstr. 9:00. REAR: cmbr.=-1.25deg., r.sprng.=grn., toe=2.7deg.,upper shk. loc.,=4th in, lower= outside, diff=Kyosho 700wt., diff. ht. adjstr.=4:00 Air temp 63f., track temp 66 to 82f., Team Powers premounts, 34 compound, full sauce, f.& r., Team Powers tire sauce. Aluminum spacer installed between chassis plate and upper deck. Please use my previous post for steering stop screw and servo arm setup. Chris S. LETZ RACE!!
Great job yesterday Chris! Car was dialed.
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ALBOP, sorry to take so long getting back. The setup that follows is for 17.5 non-ramping TC on med. to high bite asphault. I am only listing the part(s) of setup that vary from the kit. FRONT: cmbr.=-1.25 deg., fr. sprg. grn., fr. upper shk. loc.=3rd in, lower=outside, cmbr. lnk.= 1mm outer, fr. rl.ctr. shim= 1mm, diff. ht. adjstr. 9:00. REAR: cmbr.=-1.25deg., r.sprng.=grn., toe=2.7deg.,upper shk. loc.,=4th in, lower= outside, diff=Kyosho 700wt., diff. ht. adjstr.=4:00 Air temp 63f., track temp 66 to 82f., Team Powers premounts, 34 compound, full sauce, f.& r., Team Powers tire sauce. Aluminum spacer installed between chassis plate and upper deck. Please use my previous post for steering stop screw and servo arm setup. Chris S. LETZ RACE!!
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i was running mine for the first time in a few weeks, havent touched the stock shocks in months, no leaking too, just put some green slime in the o-rings and around the bladders.

managed to win overall tonight, something i have never done at all, was running a fleta 17.5t with 30 on the can, 94/41 with fresh tires and the car was flying round.

should be running the car in boosted 13.5t tomorrow, should be fun
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Thanks Josh. I won't take the credit at all with a car that's this easy to drive (whitch I've never had). It was just a matter of being patient. It's easy to stay out of trouble with this car when you're not having to push it real hard. ALBOP you are more than welcome! Hope the setup fits your driving style. If it does, I think you'll REALLY LIKE IT! Chris S. LETZ RACE!!
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