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Old 07-02-2014, 11:34 AM   #1291
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Set-ups are useful, but just as a guide, its strange to think that an exact set-up will work perfectly for all as we have different driving styles, shells, chassis weight balance, tyres, track conditions etc.
yeah I know guys with pretty big bores on the piston running 1000wt oil and run successful so it's whatever that suits you. One thing about pistons is the amount of pack you want. It's something you can't change with oil alone. I'll just run the kit pistons with AE37.5 and see how it goes
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Old 07-02-2014, 03:42 PM   #1292
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Does anybody have the PN for the 1.3 mm front sway bar?

Do we have to buy the whole kit to get it?
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Old 07-02-2014, 04:15 PM   #1293
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For the 418 I have only seen the sway bars in the sway bar set (has hard / med/ Soft front and rear bars and the fittings)
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Does anybody have the PN for the 1.3 mm front sway bar?

Do we have to buy the whole kit to get it?
Are you looking for a 417 (per other thread) or 418

They are different.
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Old 07-02-2014, 06:31 PM   #1295
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When it comes to using Setups and deciding how useful it is to you and your local conditions you need to understand the definition of "Track Condition" in the Sheet.
Imo I think this is one of the biggest misunderstood/confusing statements on Setup Sheets is defining the level of grip on a given track. On most setup's from the Pro's the grip is high and few times it's medium and low. Having only a three tier scale is very broad, and I would suggest many exaggerate/overestimate their local grip levels in comparison to what the Pro's judge a level to be.
"High Grip" Setups do not work effectively on medium or low, and visa-versa. This miscalculation is why I'm guessing some people don't feel the full benefit from copying setups.
What some locals would determine medium grip for their own track, the Pro's would probably call extremely low, as it comes down to what the individual is use to (eg for the Pro's: BIRC Huge RC to Gran Canaria, & several more lower levels "our local track").

I'm not suggesting to ignore the Pro setup's (that's crazy), but encourage you to use this information wisely as some information does translate well for all conditions and classes.

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Really understanding what to tone down or alter for the lower grip/speed is the element most are missing too.

We need Gilles to start posting again to explain why he moves his rear inner camber link up by 0.5mm* from Gran Canaria to Luxembourg (for example) and what effect it actually has and how it helped.

I think what is best to take from the setups, is to look at, say, Gilles "standard" set up, and then study what he has changed for a particular track and then watch the video to see what is going on with the car.

For now I'm just sticking to one setup (may or may not be 100% right for my track) and trying to drive without crashing - I'm at an average of 1 Marshall intervention per 20 laps at the moment

Getting there!

*may not be the correct amount
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Old 07-02-2014, 07:54 PM   #1297
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Are you looking for a 417 (per other thread) or 418

They are different.
Both.

My evo6 came with 418 bars, but the front is a 1.4.

I have some 1.3 bars for a 417, IDK where they came from.
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Old 07-02-2014, 11:56 PM   #1298
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The TA06 ones do fit the 417

http://www3.towerhobbies.com/cgi-bin/wti0001p?&I=LXBGSA

You won't find 418 bars individually (easily) but the sets are like $10, so not too bad.
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Can anyone tell me if the 417 and 418 chassis are interchangeable . I have a 417 that I want to upgrade with a smokem chassis , not sure which one to get
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Nope they are not compatible I'm afraid.
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What is it , that makes it non compatible ?
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The front and rear bulk heads, motor mounts
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I went away from the kit swaybars and installed the swaybar set from the TA06 onto my 418. Using pinks front and rear.

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I went away from the kit swaybars and installed the swaybar set from the TA06 onto my 418. Using pinks front and rear.
Really, there is a huge difference in size!
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Yup, really.


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