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Old 05-31-2014, 03:13 PM   #1126
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Anybody running a 418 with the soft Raceberry chassis??? Did any TRF driver run this chassis on the 418???
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Old 06-01-2014, 02:12 AM   #1127
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I heard they were all running pretty much std cars, although looking at the setup it seems they are starting to understand how to get more out of the car as there are some interesting little changes to Jilles Set-up

http://www.thercracer.com/2014/05/ji...dy-set-up.html
That actually looks closer to kit set up in a lot of ways than what they were doing 6 months ago! Suspension blocks are bog standard for example.

I do wonder if, say, 2mm under the inside front camber link connection is 2mm or 3mm total (taking into account the fixed 1mm on the new hex balls). Someone should change the setup sheet to capture this!

Biggest deviation away from kit seems to be in steering links/arm connections though? And the droop setting is an obvious change of thinking!
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Old 06-01-2014, 01:26 PM   #1128
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That actually looks closer to kit set up in a lot of ways than what they were doing 6 months ago! Suspension blocks are bog standard for example.

I do wonder if, say, 2mm under the inside front camber link connection is 2mm or 3mm total (taking into account the fixed 1mm on the new hex balls). Someone should change the setup sheet to capture this!

Biggest deviation away from kit seems to be in steering links/arm connections though? And the droop setting is an obvious change of thinking!
When I look at 418 setup sheets I am assuming that they are using the +1mm 418 ball studs unless specified otherwise. As far as droop settings go they look normal to me--my guess is that Jiles was measuring from the center of the outer hinge pin--in which case 9mm is about equal to 6mm measured the "standard"
way--under the arms using droop blocks.
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Old 06-01-2014, 02:00 PM   #1129
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I wanted to try the Setup tomorrow without the droop-blocks? Is this right?
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Old 06-01-2014, 04:31 PM   #1130
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WAs far as droop settings go they look normal to me--my guess is that Jiles was measuring from the center of the outer hinge pin--in which case 9mm is about equal to 6mm measured the "standard"
way--under the arms using droop blocks.
Good pick up. It would be a change in method for him to measure that way though based in previous sheets and his posts in his thread.

I think I agree with you though!
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I have been running the hard Raceberry chassis on my 418 outdoors. I would like to try the soft one just to compare. I am always looking for rear bite. I have never tried the stock 418 to compare to.
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Anybody running a 418 with the soft Raceberry chassis??? Did any TRF driver run this chassis on the 418???
The TRF guys did try them at some stage but I don't think they did after TITC. Something better came along...
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Old 06-02-2014, 11:43 PM   #1133
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The droop of 9.5 and 8 is a joke.

You need short shocks and springs to adjust this. Probably the TRF guys had the BigBore Shock from the new EVO or other Shocks

With the standard set, the setup can not be implemented.
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Old 06-02-2014, 11:46 PM   #1134
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That's because it's measured from the middle of the hingepin.
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The droop of 9.5 and 8 is a joke.

You need short shocks and springs to adjust this. Probably the TRF guys had the BigBore Shock from the new EVO or other Shocks

With the standard set, the setup can not be implemented.
How is it a joke? That's how it's measured on the setup sheet. That's how we measure droop on Yokomo's, from the center of the outer hinge pin. Not from under the arms. If it was measure that why, it would be about 6 and 4.5 droop or close to it.
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sos beat me to it... hehe
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Old 06-02-2014, 11:58 PM   #1137
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Ok guys, as rtypec a few pages back said, measuring the droop ...

Maybe you should write in the Setup
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When I look at 418 setup sheets I am assuming that they are using the +1mm 418 ball studs unless specified otherwise
Well, I hope so, I spent this afternoon getting the car ready for the next meet doing just this. If not I guess all my inner camber links are too high and my steering linkages are too far forward
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"The tapered face of the piston provides different damper characteristics to regular flat-faced pistons, increasing your setup options."

Different how? does anyone know?
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Old 06-05-2014, 02:27 AM   #1140
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Those trying the TRF set ups, are you using the HPI silver medium springs?
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