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Old 08-25-2013, 06:55 PM   #76
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Fingers crossed for some updated aluminum chubs from someone.
Fingers crossed they come w/ flip flops too!!

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Old 08-25-2013, 07:06 PM   #77
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The stiffness of the arm also has a big impact on the feel and how the car uses it's tyres. They might also be making changes to the weight of the arms which would change the feel again. It's gonna be a different beast that's for sure
That's exciting. People are saying they had hoped to see more changes, but the things they've altered are some of the most impactful of all. The no c-hub design is out there, and definitely effective (I love my Awesomatix), but it's not without compromises.

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sorry If this has been asked before. but will the gear diff on the 418 be different than the 417 and on which area ?
Haven't you heard? Tamiya's gear diff is perfect.

Honestly nobody knows the story on the gear diff yet. If they narrowed the bulkheads, then it might be new because the CAD drawings don't show any overhang in the diff cams like you see with the T4 (so it could retain the same diff as the T3 even with narrower bulkheads.) I think many of us are hopeful for an improved gear diff, but be careful who you mention it to, you might hurt someone's feelings.

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Fingers crossed they come w/ flip flops too!!

Amazing! I bet I could shave .2 off my 40 yard dash with those on!
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It hurts my feelings

The gear diff is seriously fine if you use kyosho orings and better shims, BUT I agree you shouldn't have to do that. I also agree that my best tamiya gear diff is still worse than any xray gear diff.

Regardless, I'm looking forward to seeing this car. I'm a bit suspicious of the translation about the suspension components being different, I think it may just be referring to the use of the shorter shocks from the TB04. Time will tell!
Got tired of it leaking so last resort I did is put a small amount of silicone around where the diff case snap together and walla no lick... I also use kyosho O-ring and X3 0.5 washer on both side...
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Old 08-25-2013, 11:14 PM   #79
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Here's a slightly different translation than what was on kentech's site. Obviously most of it doesn't make sense since it was translated by a machine.

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he victory in the race of many since its debut in 2010, his third consecutive in the 2012 World Championship, TRF417 series achieved world domination for the fifth time. "TRF418" (tentative name) will debut as All Bran new chassis to the world championships to be held in 2014.
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Upper deck and center bulkhead were separated, optimize the chassis roll.
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Old 08-26-2013, 12:41 AM   #80
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I wonder why they needed new suspension mounts? It mentions that as one of the changes on kentech's blog. The 1pc mounts don't appear to have a third mounting point (locating pin) like the Yokomo. They look slightly different but that could just be the CAD rendering.
On the CAD pictures you can see that the front split blocks have the edge chamfered. Perhaps needed with the new steering arms and front uprights to avoid the steering links hitting the blocks. It's been close on the current car with some setups. If there are any other changes to the blocks I don't know.
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Anyone know where these can be purchased?
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Old 09-04-2013, 09:41 AM   #82
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So Wilck beat Hagberg at the Swedish TC nationals. You think that was a 418 vs a T4'14? I looked briefly, and the picture on the SpeedPassion page doesn't look like a 418, but who knows if that's actually the car he was running. See pics at the bottom.

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Also, it looks like Tamiya is releasing new o-rings for its gear diff, so you hopefully won't need the Kyosho pieces going forward.
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Definitely a Tamiya 418 look at the top deck it narrower and you can see the center screw for the motor mount...
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Old 09-04-2013, 10:54 AM   #85
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You don't think it's a Raceberry 417v5?
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I think it's still the Raceberry...

Look where the top deck and left rear bulkhead/tower come together. Does it not look like there's a spacer between the top deck and bulkhead? That's the Raceberry treatment, yes?
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Old 09-04-2013, 11:17 AM   #87
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It also has the old bulkhead clamps (3 holes) and old sway bar mounts.

That said, who knows if it's actually the car he ran at the race. Presumably, if he had an 18, he wouldn't let people take closeup pictures of it yet.

I think it's safe to assume Hagberg was running a T4'14 though.
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Old 09-04-2013, 11:52 AM   #88
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are they supposed to reveal this at the next Tokyo show?
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Old 09-04-2013, 12:36 PM   #89
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Yup, next week I believe.
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The photos of viktor's car is definitely raceberry, you can see the yokomo blue motor mount.
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