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Old 11-02-2014, 08:45 AM   #931
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Your doing something really wrong if you can't make ride height with any of those spring combinations.

Softest to stiffest (so if you have a yellow spring, blue is the next stiffest)

Red, yellow, blue, white
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I know my car only has a turn or turn and a half of preload on yellows to get ride height. Any stiffer a spring and my ride height is gone.

The solution is to run shorter springs. Now to find what the options are. This is kind of annoying. I ordered some HPI silvers but they probably won't work.

Update: My only other guess is that we built our shocks to short, they measure under 57mm end to end. Guys reference 57.5mm on 418 builds. I can unthread the rod end to make them longer and that should help. I will update later with progress.
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Old 11-02-2014, 09:39 AM   #933
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Has anybody managed to fix overly loose handling? I'm still having issues with it.
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Old 11-02-2014, 10:06 AM   #934
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I know my car only has a turn or turn and a half of preload on yellows to get ride height. Any stiffer a spring and my ride height is gone.

The solution is to run shorter springs. Now to find what the options are. This is kind of annoying. I ordered some HPI silvers but they probably won't work.

Update: My only other guess is that we built our shocks to short, they measure under 57mm end to end. Guys reference 57.5mm on 418 builds. I can unthread the rod end to make them longer and that should help. I will update later with progress.
The standard touring springs are 26mm in length. I think we need to find a shorter spring like 24mm.

Tamiya also has 2 types of short springs. There's the m chassis shorts and then the touring shorts 42168, which are taller but on the soft side
http://www.tamiyausa.com/items/radio-control-parts-70/tamiya-hop-up-parts-72000/rc-suspension-springs-42168
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Wade the the HPI springs are shorter then the standard Tamiya springs, so your ride height will be fine. My LHS can't get hpi springs they have to order hotbodies springs (they are the same) if your LHS has a problem ordering them.



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I know my car only has a turn or turn and a half of preload on yellows to get ride height. Any stiffer a spring and my ride height is gone.

The solution is to run shorter springs. Now to find what the options are. This is kind of annoying. I ordered some HPI silvers but they probably won't work.

Update: My only other guess is that we built our shocks to short, they measure under 57mm end to end. Guys reference 57.5mm on 418 builds. I can unthread the rod end to make them longer and that should help. I will update later with progress.
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The standard touring springs are 26mm in length. I think we need to find a shorter spring like 24mm.

Tamiya also has 2 types of short springs. There's the m chassis shorts and then the touring shorts 42168, which are taller but on the soft side
http://www.tamiyausa.com/items/radio...-springs-42168
Good info!

Hpi Springs are 25mm in length. I think HPI springs combined with unthreading the shock end a turn or so should give all the ride height adjustment one needs.

HPI Springs that matter (rates from RSD chart)
Blue 6542, ~14.6 lb/in
Silver 6543, ~15.9 lb/in
Pink 6548, ~16.6 lb/in
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Wade the the HPI springs are shorter then the standard Tamiya springs, so your ride height will be fine. My LHS can't get hpi springs they have to order hotbodies springs (they are the same) if your LHS has a problem ordering them.
Thanks Vivo! No problem getting them thru Great Planes
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Probably a good idea to just buy this

http://www3.towerhobbies.com/cgi-bin/wti0001p?&I=LXEEKM&P=ML
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Probably a good idea to just buy this

http://www3.towerhobbies.com/cgi-bin...&I=LXEEKM&P=ML
I thought about that but anything beyond the Pink is very firm by today's standards.
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Pinks are used with great success in the front for carpet
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I know my car only has a turn or turn and a half of preload on yellows to get ride height. Any stiffer a spring and my ride height is gone.

The solution is to run shorter springs. Now to find what the options are. This is kind of annoying. I ordered some HPI silvers but they probably won't work.

Update: My only other guess is that we built our shocks to short, they measure under 57mm end to end. Guys reference 57.5mm on 418 builds. I can unthread the rod end to make them longer and that should help. I will update later with progress.
What ride height are you running? Im running tamiya blue springs all around at 5 -5.5mm ride height with 3-4 turns on the pre-load adjuster. Are you using the stock plastic spring retainer? If yes, i would suggest getting the aluminum hop up as it sits the spring 1mm lower
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What ride height are you running? Im running tamiya blue springs all around at 5 -5.5mm ride height with 3-4 turns on the pre-load adjuster. Are you using the stock plastic spring retainer? If yes, i would suggest getting the aluminum hop up as it sits the spring 1mm lower
The plastic spring retainers are fine. He built something wrong to have this ride height problem.
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Just placed an order with TQ for HPI 2 sets of silver and one pair of blue springs.
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Hi, does anyone know what width the kit hex drives are? I'd like to get some in alloy but not sure what size to order.

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