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Old 10-01-2014, 03:10 PM   #166
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So I'm running the v10 13.5T with 49 deg end bell, boosted/ turbo which makes up 64 steps which comes of 91c measured on the can outside ... Is this not good then,should it be a lower temp?
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I suggest you start with a lot lower can timing ie 15 deg.
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Old 10-02-2014, 12:57 PM   #168
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if I run endbell timing below 30 deg then there is no power/torque at the bottom end, it's very flat.
my question is :- running the outside temp at 91C, is this ok or am I cooking it to much?
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if I run endbell timing below 30 deg then there is no power/torque at the bottom end, it's very flat.
my question is :- running the outside temp at 91C, is this ok or am I cooking it to much?
91C = 196F

I would say that's hot
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Old 10-02-2014, 01:14 PM   #170
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even if the instructions says "never let the motor case go above 100C or 212F"?
this is where I am getting confused between what peope say on here and what the instructions recommend.
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even if the instructions says "never let the motor case go above 100C or 212F"?
this is where I am getting confused between what peope say on here and what the instructions recommend.
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If you have a HW3.1 you can read the internal sensor temperature. Hobbywing recommends not to exceed 126C if reading from the sensor with a program card, that is about 100C on the outside of the can with a temp sensor gun.
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If you have a HW3.1 you can read the internal sensor temperature. Hobbywing recommends not to exceed 126C if reading from the sensor with a program card, that is about 100C on the outside of the can with a temp sensor gun.
Cool, thanks for that.
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if I run endbell timing below 30 deg then there is no power/torque at the bottom end, it's very flat.
my question is :- running the outside temp at 91C, is this ok or am I cooking it to much?
Then you need to optimize the ESC settings.

It depends where you are measuring the 91 deg C it would be close to the limit. As per the other post check the internal temp sensor and try to measure the winding temps.
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Then you need to optimize the ESC settings.
What settings would you start to play with?
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What settings would you start to play with?
If you want to run more endbell timing, use less boost. Your total timing should be no more than 65* combined. So if you have 49* static timing (endbell), you should not add any more than 16* from the ESC otherwise you are gaining nothing while creating more heat regardless of what your gearing is. If you want to go to this extreme, a higher FDR would be in order. Start around 5.5fdr and work down till temps get more in line with normal operational range.
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What settings would you start to play with?
Boost and turbo timing, boost start & end rpms, turbo ramp rate & delay and boost activation with throttle.
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Have to say im pretty pleased with my v10 so far..
I picked up a 13.5 to run in 12th scale and literally had to drop it in for trial by fire tonight. i didnt really have time to admire the workmanship a lot but the motor felt really solid in hand. multiple sensorwires included was nice too.

set it at 35ish degrees, 87ish rollout and got to work setting the car.

i already had a few vices against me.. was borrowing a friends crc car to try out. i normally run vbc.
i didnt touch the motor or gearing AT ALL all night basically, chased/rebuilt the crc every heat heh.

second round i was on a fast tq pace with the fastest lap of the night that wouldnt be bested until the main event.
but the cars handling issues made it difficult to handle after the 4 minute mark.

but major props for having a trouble free motor.. i dropped it in and literally guessed where it should be, and it seemed to have everything the orca cars did.

looking forward to more track time with the v10.. oh, and its a little unsettling how cold they run... my fastest run of the night came off stone cold.. maybe 120f?

im guessing this motor will be similar to my reedy in blinky. moderate timing and moderate gear. I tend to drive the stock car like a mod car a lot of the time, slow down for tight tight apex's and punch out of corners.
my straight line speed wasnt as good as the other cars but the infield seemed to be pretty excellent.

any suggestions for 13.5 12th scale much appreciated.. also settings for modified touring car, as ill be picking up a 4.5 for that purpose.

both cars running hobbywing 3.1s.
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Hi guys,
I'm now running a lrp x20 4.5 and it is very fast for sure, but when the weather became hot, I struggle remaining with the same performance, and I have to stress too much my poor xerun v3.1, today for example with bt10 and tt20 I reach 122C inside the esc and I was also slower than others.
The xerun v10 4.5 is a good substitute?
Thanks for help
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Have to say im pretty pleased with my v10 so far..
I picked up a 13.5 to run in 12th scale and literally had to drop it in for trial by fire tonight. i didnt really have time to admire the workmanship a lot but the motor felt really solid in hand. multiple sensorwires included was nice too.

set it at 35ish degrees, 87ish rollout and got to work setting the car.

i already had a few vices against me.. was borrowing a friends crc car to try out. i normally run vbc.
i didnt touch the motor or gearing AT ALL all night basically, chased/rebuilt the crc every heat heh.

second round i was on a fast tq pace with the fastest lap of the night that wouldnt be bested until the main event.
but the cars handling issues made it difficult to handle after the 4 minute mark.

but major props for having a trouble free motor.. i dropped it in and literally guessed where it should be, and it seemed to have everything the orca cars did.

looking forward to more track time with the v10.. oh, and its a little unsettling how cold they run... my fastest run of the night came off stone cold.. maybe 120f?

im guessing this motor will be similar to my reedy in blinky. moderate timing and moderate gear. I tend to drive the stock car like a mod car a lot of the time, slow down for tight tight apex's and punch out of corners.
my straight line speed wasnt as good as the other cars but the infield seemed to be pretty excellent.

any suggestions for 13.5 12th scale much appreciated.. also settings for modified touring car, as ill be picking up a 4.5 for that purpose.

both cars running hobbywing 3.1s.
Glad you like the motor. Im going to be trying one myself soon. And when I took it out of the box I was impressed with the craftsmanship also. (looks tough) and the two sensor wires are a plus to.
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Hi guys,
I'm now running a lrp x20 4.5 and it is very fast for sure, but when the weather became hot, I struggle remaining with the same performance, and I have to stress too much my poor xerun v3.1, today for example with bt10 and tt20 I reach 122C inside the esc and I was also slower than others.
The xerun v10 4.5 is a good substitute?
Thanks for help
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Have to say im pretty pleased with my v10 so far..
I picked up a 13.5 to run in 12th scale and literally had to drop it in for trial by fire tonight. i didnt really have time to admire the workmanship a lot but the motor felt really solid in hand. multiple sensorwires included was nice too.

set it at 35ish degrees, 87ish rollout and got to work setting the car.

i already had a few vices against me.. was borrowing a friends crc car to try out. i normally run vbc.
i didnt touch the motor or gearing AT ALL all night basically, chased/rebuilt the crc every heat heh.

second round i was on a fast tq pace with the fastest lap of the night that wouldnt be bested until the main event.
but the cars handling issues made it difficult to handle after the 4 minute mark.

but major props for having a trouble free motor.. i dropped it in and literally guessed where it should be, and it seemed to have everything the orca cars did.

looking forward to more track time with the v10.. oh, and its a little unsettling how cold they run... my fastest run of the night came off stone cold.. maybe 120f?

im guessing this motor will be similar to my reedy in blinky. moderate timing and moderate gear. I tend to drive the stock car like a mod car a lot of the time, slow down for tight tight apex's and punch out of corners.
my straight line speed wasnt as good as the other cars but the infield seemed to be pretty excellent.

any suggestions for 13.5 12th scale much appreciated.. also settings for modified touring car, as ill be picking up a 4.5 for that purpose.

both cars running hobbywing 3.1s.
Here in the near future I will post my settings from Worlds running the V10 4.5 and 3.1 ESC. The track was fairly large without many tight sections at all. The temps were in the 90's (My table top thermometer read 99*F most of the time in the shade) and I didn't have nay proplems with power or thermalling. I also ran the same esc motor combo at our Nationals at the same track when the temps were about 10* hotter with no thermal or power issues.

I'll also have my settings from Worlds with my 3.1 1s and V10 3.5 from the 12th scale portion. This track was a typical American size and layout, but with pretty low grip. Again, no issues with temps or power.

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