2013 U.S. VTA+ SOUTHERN NATIONALS in MUSIC CITY, U.S.A.
08-12-2013, 12:09 PM
#421
Why are you looking to make changes to the USGT rule set? If you're calling the class USGT and saying that its following these rules why are you looking to enforce some arbitrary rule from another race into the USGT rule set? When Rob and I worked on the USGT rules this wasnt a concern and I really dont take any issue with someone painting a GT car in their "scheme" if they want. GT cars are not always painted in single colors and sometimes have radical paint schemes as the end user or team likes. The enforcement of a rule like this is going to open more doors than it helps close. IMO its best to keep it closed and let racers paint their cars how they seem fit just based off how actual GT style or race cars are painted for these types of bodies that are used.
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08-12-2013, 03:18 PM
#423
Slow and re-read
Wait, Spec GT, what? That is a direct copy paste from the IIC tread, #246 by the world famous Kraig. Page one here said we are running full USGT rules. Do you have written permission to use SEP rules/language?
I have a USGT body in signature colors, and it still looks like a race car. Why?
Snowy.
I have a USGT body in signature colors, and it still looks like a race car. Why?
Snowy.
I see both sides of the coin with this one............
Personally, I prefer the "realistic paint" and enjoy seeing what folks come up with and the pride they take when putting together a USGT or other GT based car. Look at last year's Southern Nats GT concourse winner, or the Bob Peterson's Cuda from the 2010? Scale Nats or Kelvin Khng's TCS GT1 car
I have seen a few "rip", "dripped" paint schemes that I could also see being in a "full size" race.
That being said, the IIC rules are put together for the IIC, not necessarily for other events, even though some do follow Scotty and his crew's lead.
Run what you have this year and maybe look at a "rule change" for bodies next year in USGT, the majority I think, already paint their bodies in the "spirit" of the GT class already.
Personally, I prefer the "realistic paint" and enjoy seeing what folks come up with and the pride they take when putting together a USGT or other GT based car. Look at last year's Southern Nats GT concourse winner, or the Bob Peterson's Cuda from the 2010? Scale Nats or Kelvin Khng's TCS GT1 car
I have seen a few "rip", "dripped" paint schemes that I could also see being in a "full size" race.
That being said, the IIC rules are put together for the IIC, not necessarily for other events, even though some do follow Scotty and his crew's lead.
Run what you have this year and maybe look at a "rule change" for bodies next year in USGT, the majority I think, already paint their bodies in the "spirit" of the GT class already.
Why are you looking to make changes to the USGT rule set? If you're calling the class USGT and saying that its following these rules why are you looking to enforce some arbitrary rule from another race into the USGT rule set? When Rob and I worked on the USGT rules this wasnt a concern and I really dont take any issue with someone painting a GT car in their "scheme" if they want. GT cars are not always painted in single colors and sometimes have radical paint schemes as the end user or team likes. The enforcement of a rule like this is going to open more doors than it helps close. IMO its best to keep it closed and let racers paint their cars how they seem fit just based off how actual GT style or race cars are painted for these types of bodies that are used.
always...that's why Im fast, I never practice...lol
08-12-2013, 03:49 PM
#424
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who said anything about making changes Kevin?...Im not asking any change...I thought that this would intrest some of the guys running GT...its interesting that a race/event like Vegas is getting into "scale" type classes like GT or VTA..as well as F1...I personally think its a big pat on the back for USGT...and as far as you and Robk...its your BBQ, but ?????????????? any questions
08-13-2013, 11:03 AM
#426
Sorry to Hi-Jack the thread but I will have some Breast Cancer Awareness Charge leads available for sale at the Southern Nats $5.00 of each sale goes towards donation. I will be donating the black version of this as well to the goodie bag Myron has assembled. Back to talking about how Myron is gonna back out of this race again....
08-13-2013, 11:37 AM
#427
cool...
cool...
cool, thanks EW...you get it
check original post..or pm me your name
Im at 3.69-4.0 in VTA...and 3.8-4.1 in GT, depending on layout and traction
who said anything about making changes Kevin?...Im not asking any change...I thought that this would intrest some of the guys running GT...its interesting that a race/event like Vegas is getting into "scale" type classes like GT or VTA..as well as F1...I personally think its a big pat on the back for USGT...and as far as you and Robk...its your BBQ, but ?????????????? any questions
you quit cause you cant beat me...soups on...lol
true...but I did a little and pulled two 10th
always...that's why Im fast, I never practice...lol
cool...
cool, thanks EW...you get it
check original post..or pm me your name
Im at 3.69-4.0 in VTA...and 3.8-4.1 in GT, depending on layout and traction
who said anything about making changes Kevin?...Im not asking any change...I thought that this would intrest some of the guys running GT...its interesting that a race/event like Vegas is getting into "scale" type classes like GT or VTA..as well as F1...I personally think its a big pat on the back for USGT...and as far as you and Robk...its your BBQ, but ?????????????? any questions
you quit cause you cant beat me...soups on...lol
true...but I did a little and pulled two 10th
always...that's why Im fast, I never practice...lol
You need to practice you still weren't fast enough to beat my brightly colored fade paint usvta car when I just threw the car down for the main...
08-13-2013, 03:30 PM
#429
well that's true...Im very slow...anybody can beat me...even a turtle like Nash...so if you are looking for a spot in the E-main...Ill be there trying to stay on the same lap....and hope not to get bumped to just the pace car driver
08-13-2013, 03:40 PM
#430
I've seen a lot of great paint jobs over the years in RCGT & USGT. Some have been based on real cars, and those always look great. The gray area on scale realism (for me personally) is when it is a great scheme but doesn't look like a race car.
Here are some examples or real race cars with unique schemes.
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It takes a lot of money from sponsors to hold race events and fund individual teams. Because of this you will always see sponsor decals on cars. Even in lower level racing you will see numbers on the cars. The BMW art car has the least decals to showcase the paint scheme, but still had race numbers, class decals, and windshield sponsor decals. On the other hand the first BMW with the black & white scheme is missing decals and looks a bit plain.
I would challenge all of the individuals who have their own unique R/C paint scheme to treat RCGT like a real race car. Adding those few visual element to your R/C body that make it look like something we COULD see on a real track doesn't really take that much time. Even if you buy a body with no decals, I bet most of us have R/C sponsor decals that we could use.
Here are some examples or real race cars with unique schemes.
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It takes a lot of money from sponsors to hold race events and fund individual teams. Because of this you will always see sponsor decals on cars. Even in lower level racing you will see numbers on the cars. The BMW art car has the least decals to showcase the paint scheme, but still had race numbers, class decals, and windshield sponsor decals. On the other hand the first BMW with the black & white scheme is missing decals and looks a bit plain.
I would challenge all of the individuals who have their own unique R/C paint scheme to treat RCGT like a real race car. Adding those few visual element to your R/C body that make it look like something we COULD see on a real track doesn't really take that much time. Even if you buy a body with no decals, I bet most of us have R/C sponsor decals that we could use.
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08-13-2013, 03:53 PM
#431
Sorry to Hi-Jack the thread but I will have some Breast Cancer Awareness Charge leads available for sale at the Southern Nats $5.00 of each sale goes towards donation. I will be donating the black version of this as well to the goodie bag Myron has assembled. Back to talking about how Myron is gonna back out of this race again....
08-14-2013, 12:17 AM
#432
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08-14-2013, 08:08 AM
#434
I mean no disrespect and i apologize for dropping this here but i figured someone here might be able to reach out to a local guy or a friend. Looking to sell my USVTA motor and ESC.
http://www.rctech.net/forum/r-c-item...-edge-esc.html
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08-14-2013, 03:48 PM
#435
Sponsors Parma PSE
I would like to thank Steve and the Parma PSE family for the support they have given this event every year...and their prizes are already here
thank you very much
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thank you very much
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