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Old 05-23-2013, 06:19 AM   #1
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Default NEW Team Magic E4RS II EVO



Hello everybody,

After months of hard work in collaboration between our top drivers and Team Magic, as well as numerous tests on track, we are pleased to announce the release of the all new Team Magic E4RS II EVO!



On this dedicated website, you will find absolutely all details of the design of the car, our technical choices and their motivations... and of course a lot of photos of the definitive parts as well as some prototype ones: http://www.teammagicrc.net/E4RS_II_Evo/
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I like the detailed explanations of the car's features.
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I really like the looks of it except for those roll center blks, i like the tamiya style
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OMG!! it is awesome, there are a lot of premium qulity parts assembled on
this driveing machine...need to figure out how much is it???
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Looks great! Some very interesting and different features. Not too sure about the centre layshaft though. It looks like you'll have to remove either the whole motor mount side, or right hand side mount to change spurs. It appears the bearings are fully captured so they can't be removed from the top. Correct?
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I like the lowering of the roll center on this car. Pretty cool.
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Looks great! Some very interesting and different features. Not too sure about the centre layshaft though. It looks like you'll have to remove either the whole motor mount side, or right hand side mount to change spurs. It appears the bearings are fully captured so they can't be removed from the top. Correct?
I do that all the time on my Schumacher. 3 screws and it's out... easier than removing a top deck.

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Looks great! Some very interesting and different features. Not too sure about the centre layshaft though. It looks like you'll have to remove either the whole motor mount side, or right hand side mount to change spurs. It appears the bearings are fully captured so they can't be removed from the top. Correct?
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You're right, the bearings are fully captured on the layshaft mounts.

We choose this solution to lower the weight (and off course the CG), and to perfectly align the bearings for a better freeness.

To change the spur gear, you have to remove the same amount of screws than on the older E4RS II or many other 1/10 TC. You just have to remove the right layshaft mount (and not the motor side one).

We were conscious that someone would feel it a bit boring, but to be honest, the benefits is higher than the disadvantage, and as already told, the number of screws is the same. We also wondered how many times we change a spur gear during a race... personally, almost never (13.5 Stock class) and Walter (the other designer) not much more (modified class).

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I do that all the time on my Schumacher. 3 screws and it's out... easier than removing a top deck.

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You're right, the bearings are fully captured on the layshaft mounts.

We choose this solution to lower the weight (and off course the CG), and to perfectly align the bearings for a better freeness.

To change the spur gear, you have to remove the same amount of screws than on the older E4RS II or many other 1/10 TC. You just have to remove the right layshaft mount (and not the motor side one).

We were conscious that someone would feel it a bit boring, but to be honest, the benefits is higher than the disadvantage, and as already told, the number of screws is the same. We also wondered how many times we change a spur gear during a race... personally, almost never (13.5 Stock class) and Walter (the other designer) not much more (modified class).

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I might try that with my current ride. It's certainly a pain removing the top deck to get to it. I'll trust you (for now ) that it works, so I guess there is enough play in the spur/top deck area that it would slide out undeneath the top deck once you removed the mount?
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Off course you have to remove the top deck. like on the E4RS II (not EVO) and the Xray T4, and many other cars.

Top deck + 2 screws.
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Now I'm confused. So you have to remove the layshaft mount AND the top deck? Gripgoat mentioned he doesn't remove the top deck on his Schumacher. The tamiya is top deck only. X-ray is top deck plus 2 screws.

You're right that its probably not a deal breaker considering the number of times you actually change the spur, but it does happen.....
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Other than that I am impressed! The new details are exactly what cost the driver a lot of money in the aftermarket. A very nice evolution by Team Magic. Really looks like the perfect standard TC.
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Now I'm confused. So you have to remove the layshaft mount AND the top deck? Gripgoat mentioned he doesn't remove the top deck on his Schumacher. The tamiya is top deck only. X-ray is top deck plus 2 screws.

You're right that its probably not a deal breaker considering the number of times you actually change the spur, but it does happen.....
Tamiya: is top deck only, yes but we choose a better alignment system
Schumacher: I don't know
Xray is exactly as the TM: top deck + 2 screws (2 screws on the over for Xray vs 2 screws on the chassis for TM).

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what's the street pricing of the new kit? and where are they sold in the US?
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