344Likes3 Racing Sakura XI Sport
01-27-2017, 08:47 AM
#1156
Tech Apprentice
I'm another one with an 8mm ride height. Seems weird that there are some guys who it just worked for them, but the rest of us have this issue.
Did someone say the CF shock towers are taller? Or can we put spacers under the bulkhead covers (he says trying to imaging the car from afar)?
Did someone say the CF shock towers are taller? Or can we put spacers under the bulkhead covers (he says trying to imaging the car from afar)?
01-27-2017, 09:23 AM
#1157
Tech Apprentice
Just realised that there are 2 versions of CF shock tower. I have a pair coming from eBay, but not sure of the part number.. You know it's going to be the wrong one though, right? 😀
01-27-2017, 09:49 AM
#1158
Tech Rookie
SAK-U417 (Front) and SAK-U418 (Rear) are the carbon towers you want. They actually drop the holes 3.5mm instead of raising them.
I am fairly certain the only problem is the kit springs, as they are too long. I got springs from the sakura zero and put them on an the car sits at 5mm with the shock collars very close to the top, but I didn't have to shim the shocks inside or in any way. Don't put spacers between the top and bottom of the bulkhead it will also change your roll centres and probably make the car unwieldy. I also got the PTFE coated shock shafts and bodies and oh man they made a world of difference as far as smoothness compared to the kit ones.
Also a lot of people are saying that the sakura zero S springs are garbage because they are much too stiff and here's why...
4.25T - 35.8 lb/in
4.5T - 31.7 lb/in
4.75T - 29.2 lb/in
5.0T - 26.2 lb/in
5.25T - 24.9 lb/in
5.50T - 22.9 lb/in
5.75T - 21.2 lb/in
6.0T - 20.0 lb/in
6.5T - 17.9 lb/in
Even the softest springs from the Sakura Zero are harder than the hardest springs from Team Associated (16.8lb/in yellows), people have complained about them being much too stiff to race with.
My best suggestion for you is to get some springs that fit properly in the neighbourhood of 12-15lbs/in and run them on the front and rear, if you need to change the handling a bit or if the body rolls too much when turning then put slighter stiffer springs on the fronts.
Hopefully the spring swap on its own will fix your ride height conundrum.
I am fairly certain the only problem is the kit springs, as they are too long. I got springs from the sakura zero and put them on an the car sits at 5mm with the shock collars very close to the top, but I didn't have to shim the shocks inside or in any way. Don't put spacers between the top and bottom of the bulkhead it will also change your roll centres and probably make the car unwieldy. I also got the PTFE coated shock shafts and bodies and oh man they made a world of difference as far as smoothness compared to the kit ones.
Also a lot of people are saying that the sakura zero S springs are garbage because they are much too stiff and here's why...
4.25T - 35.8 lb/in
4.5T - 31.7 lb/in
4.75T - 29.2 lb/in
5.0T - 26.2 lb/in
5.25T - 24.9 lb/in
5.50T - 22.9 lb/in
5.75T - 21.2 lb/in
6.0T - 20.0 lb/in
6.5T - 17.9 lb/in
Even the softest springs from the Sakura Zero are harder than the hardest springs from Team Associated (16.8lb/in yellows), people have complained about them being much too stiff to race with.
My best suggestion for you is to get some springs that fit properly in the neighbourhood of 12-15lbs/in and run them on the front and rear, if you need to change the handling a bit or if the body rolls too much when turning then put slighter stiffer springs on the fronts.
Hopefully the spring swap on its own will fix your ride height conundrum.
01-27-2017, 04:27 PM
#1159
Tech Apprentice
When on the car, fully loaded (except the body), the shocks measure 50mm. What do others read when they have 5mm ride height?
I'm just trying to work out what length springs I need.
I'm just trying to work out what length springs I need.
Last edited by Buroz888; 01-27-2017 at 10:53 PM.
01-31-2017, 10:29 AM
#1160
Tech Regular
iTrader: (1)
Mine finally showed up. 3 months later. Was lost and damaged by Canada post but the contents were fine. And this weekend is the big racing weekend so gonna build it Thursday. Got the sway bars and yeah racing Springs. Will be running 17.5 tc. Med grip grey carpet.
02-02-2017, 12:42 AM
#1161
Tech Apprentice
Springs
I bought any old touring car springs from eBay and my car can not get down [easily] below 5mm.
As others have said, the ones in the kit are too long!
As others have said, the ones in the kit are too long!
02-06-2017, 11:52 PM
#1163
Tech Apprentice
It's the carbon chassis really over 100g lighter than the standard? The 3racing Web site suggests that it's 66g, as opposed to over 200g for the std chassis.
Unless I'm reading the website wrong (net weight)! 😀
Update: Just thinking about it and there is obviously no way the std chassis weighs over 200g.. Doh!
Unless I'm reading the website wrong (net weight)! 😀
Update: Just thinking about it and there is obviously no way the std chassis weighs over 200g.. Doh!
Last edited by Buroz888; 02-07-2017 at 09:48 AM.
02-26-2017, 07:23 PM
#1164
Tech Initiate
SAK-U417 (Front) and SAK-U418 (Rear) are the carbon towers you want. They actually drop the holes 3.5mm instead of raising them.
I am fairly certain the only problem is the kit springs, as they are too long. I got springs from the sakura zero and put them on an the car sits at 5mm with the shock collars very close to the top, but I didn't have to shim the shocks inside or in any way. Don't put spacers between the top and bottom of the bulkhead it will also change your roll centres and probably make the car unwieldy. I also got the PTFE coated shock shafts and bodies and oh man they made a world of difference as far as smoothness compared to the kit ones.
Also a lot of people are saying that the sakura zero S springs are garbage because they are much too stiff and here's why...
4.25T - 35.8 lb/in
4.5T - 31.7 lb/in
4.75T - 29.2 lb/in
5.0T - 26.2 lb/in
5.25T - 24.9 lb/in
5.50T - 22.9 lb/in
5.75T - 21.2 lb/in
6.0T - 20.0 lb/in
6.5T - 17.9 lb/in
Even the softest springs from the Sakura Zero are harder than the hardest springs from Team Associated (16.8lb/in yellows), people have complained about them being much too stiff to race with.
My best suggestion for you is to get some springs that fit properly in the neighbourhood of 12-15lbs/in and run them on the front and rear, if you need to change the handling a bit or if the body rolls too much when turning then put slighter stiffer springs on the fronts.
Hopefully the spring swap on its own will fix your ride height conundrum.
I am fairly certain the only problem is the kit springs, as they are too long. I got springs from the sakura zero and put them on an the car sits at 5mm with the shock collars very close to the top, but I didn't have to shim the shocks inside or in any way. Don't put spacers between the top and bottom of the bulkhead it will also change your roll centres and probably make the car unwieldy. I also got the PTFE coated shock shafts and bodies and oh man they made a world of difference as far as smoothness compared to the kit ones.
Also a lot of people are saying that the sakura zero S springs are garbage because they are much too stiff and here's why...
4.25T - 35.8 lb/in
4.5T - 31.7 lb/in
4.75T - 29.2 lb/in
5.0T - 26.2 lb/in
5.25T - 24.9 lb/in
5.50T - 22.9 lb/in
5.75T - 21.2 lb/in
6.0T - 20.0 lb/in
6.5T - 17.9 lb/in
Even the softest springs from the Sakura Zero are harder than the hardest springs from Team Associated (16.8lb/in yellows), people have complained about them being much too stiff to race with.
My best suggestion for you is to get some springs that fit properly in the neighbourhood of 12-15lbs/in and run them on the front and rear, if you need to change the handling a bit or if the body rolls too much when turning then put slighter stiffer springs on the fronts.
Hopefully the spring swap on its own will fix your ride height conundrum.
02-27-2017, 07:01 PM
#1165
I have recommended the yeah racing trf set for this car for quite some time.
03-01-2017, 09:16 AM
#1166
Tech Initiate
Okay,so I'm setting mine up for GT class. I don't have a motor analyser or dyno, but any idea how close manufacturers suggested gearing and preset timing are to start tuning from? I'm using a Hobbywing V10 G2 21.5T motor if it maters.
03-07-2017, 06:26 AM
#1167
I'm thinking about getting an XI Sport. Can someone tell me how long the drive belts last in this model? Also, I've heard that the screws don't go in very well in this car. Is that true?
03-07-2017, 12:11 PM
#1168
The belts are reinforced and of high quality.
Screws go in fine. You'll notice a difference based on the tools used (basic Dynamite stuff vs honeycomb Arrowmax stuff).
Screws go in fine. You'll notice a difference based on the tools used (basic Dynamite stuff vs honeycomb Arrowmax stuff).
03-07-2017, 12:13 PM
#1169
Are you running at NASCAR or CARCAR? Best bet would be to ask the local guys what they are setting that motor at.
03-18-2017, 08:45 PM
#1170
Tech Adept
My son and I have 2 Sakura XI sport with same Trackstar d99x servo.
We always have to adjust steering trim to make the car go straight.
I am new to touring but I never had it do this so often with my buggies.
After very small crashes we always have to trim the steering which is annoying.
Is there something wrong? Should I add servo saver ? XI sport does not seem to have one.
Thanks in advance for your help!
We always have to adjust steering trim to make the car go straight.
I am new to touring but I never had it do this so often with my buggies.
After very small crashes we always have to trim the steering which is annoying.
Is there something wrong? Should I add servo saver ? XI sport does not seem to have one.
Thanks in advance for your help!
