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Old 08-12-2013, 05:22 AM   #1216
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Yes, droop can be set properly when using the shorter length shock shafts (ie. MH 10.6mm)
Is this using 10mm blocks under the bottom, ore ?
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Old 08-12-2013, 06:13 AM   #1217
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Is this using 10mm blocks under the bottom, ore ?
I use 10mm blocks to measure droop and measure under the outer hinge pin area.
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Old 08-13-2013, 01:59 PM   #1218
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Just raced my Mi5 again tonight, and I keeping improving my lap times..

But I noticed, tha I have a fair amount of play/sloop in my front steering hub on each side.

I think it is coming from the kingpin and the bearings in the front caster blocks ? Ore some of it also might come from where the pin is going through the caster block at the wishbone.

Anybody has discovered the same play, and how to get rid of it. ?
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Just raced my Mi5 again tonight, and I keeping improving my lap times..

But I noticed, tha I have a fair amount of play/sloop in my front steering hub on each side.

I think it is coming from the kingpin and the bearings in the front caster blocks ? Ore some of it also might come from where the pin is going through the caster block at the wishbone.

Anybody has discovered the same play, and how to get rid of it. ?
yeah I have found this but only on the right side, ( had to change the left caster due to king pin working out with no impact.) so I guess it is mainly from the king pin. but I can see some very slight play on the mini hub but its too tight with 0.5mm shim.

On a side note another driver with mid motor conversion (brad) walked away with a very convincing win at our local club meet on Friday romped it to win by 1 clear lap, he has given me his settings so gonna have a try at the weekend and will post if it work good for me too. really liking the car and have just ordered the traxaas 4x14 button heads to see if they help the king pin issue.
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Old 08-13-2013, 05:10 PM   #1220
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Old 08-13-2013, 08:26 PM   #1221
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Here is my 17.5 A-main run from this weekend, stop #4 at the NW Asphalt Challenge. Starting in the #2 spot behind RC America team driver and Roar national champ, Devin Patterson. I am in the Blue/Red/Black, Devin is out in front in the Orange/White/Purple. My car was slightly faster, but Devin was a bit more consistent. On a small track like this, with 10 cars, back markers can make or break the race. When you are this close, the guy that moves over for 1st, tends to no longer be at a great place to pass on the track, when position #2 reaches him, so i had a bit more work to do around the back markers... In the end I couldn't make the pass and Devin holds on to the lead to take the win. He is a monster on the track, He TQ'd and won both mod and 17.5. It is a privilege to just be on the track with him, and be running with him, door to door.

The Schumacher was just flawless. Tons of corner speed, easy to drive, tons of steering, but the ass was still planted... exactly like I like em. Still running the shorty pack at 1388 grams, and of course all powered by Fantom gear.



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Old 08-14-2013, 08:13 AM   #1222
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Anyone have a setup sheet for mid-motor on carpet? Any of the factory drivers have setup advice for the mid-motor conversion? I'm debating running the Mi5 as mid-motor for the IIC event in Vegas in 17.5 but I'll have no carpet time before the event to test so I would need a good setup to start with.
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Does anyone know who has the schumacher dcj's instock??
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I got to see Bradon's Schumacher run a bit in practice at the FWR Summer Sizzler this past weekend so I tossed together a quick video (Brandon helped me immensely when I started racing).
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How do you adjust the sway bars to get them to act equally on both sides of the car? Was just setting my new mi5 up for its first run on the weekend and I noticed my front sway bar wasn't acting the same each way. If I lift the left arm, the right lifts just after (as it should) but if I lift the right arm the left only just starts to move when the right arm is at maximum height.

I've fiddled with the settings on the bar and none seem to make a difference. The only thing I haven't fiddled with is the length of the joint between the bar and arm.

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Old 08-16-2013, 02:40 AM   #1227
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How do you adjust the sway bars to get them to act equally on both sides of the car? Was just setting my new mi5 up for its first run on the weekend and I noticed my front sway bar wasn't acting the same each way. If I lift the left arm, the right lifts just after (as it should) but if I lift the right arm the left only just starts to move when the right arm is at maximum height.

I've fiddled with the settings on the bar and none seem to make a difference. The only thing I haven't fiddled with is the length of the joint between the bar and arm.

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I had the same problem with my Mi5, and the surgestion to me was to adjustbthe lenght of the sway bar arms/links. And the worked for me, when I was making the one shortervthan the other, and now they lift up the same amount, but they are different lenght.
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Just raced my Mi5 again tonight, and I keeping improving my lap times..

But I noticed, tha I have a fair amount of play/sloop in my front steering hub on each side.

I think it is coming from the kingpin and the bearings in the front caster blocks ? Ore some of it also might come from where the pin is going through the caster block at the wishbone.

Anybody has discovered the same play, and how to get rid of it. ?

Not anybody there has the same issue ??
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Not anybody there has the same issue ??
Use a 4x14mm button head screw instead of the kingpin and add a thin shim on the hinge pin that goes through the castor block.
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Old 08-16-2013, 03:02 PM   #1230
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Not anybody there has the same issue ??
I have had a good look now, swapped out the standard king pin for the traxxas 4 x 14, so I know this is tight, I have traced my slight play down to the front pivot balls in the wishbones. I have very slight up/ down movement on just the front on both sides. and have ordered some new ones to try. if you wind down your droop screw to min then you can see the slight play (well in mine)
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