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Old 05-15-2013, 12:53 AM   #61
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I am thinking about the front. It seems like the carbon fibre part is a integrated part of the suspension since it is screwed down with the servo mount and also the holder in the front. I have no complaints about that, but how to adjust camber? Will the alu blocks we can see on each side be moveable with steps in holes or just sliding maybe? Or wont camber be adjustable without changing the whole upper carbon part?

One can see the carbon part on the setup board below the car in the picture, but it is not really clear..
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Anyone know why they chose TRF101 vs F105 for the name?
F105 would be a whole new chassis range, not just a new front end on a F104v2 with a few tweaks.
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Old 05-15-2013, 06:56 AM   #63
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I have no complaints about that, but how to adjust camber? Will the alu blocks we can see on each side be moveable with steps in holes or just sliding maybe? Or wont camber be adjustable without changing the whole upper carbon part?
Fixed position and replacing the upper plate to change settings. The upper plate has a round hole so not adjustable.

The F103 manages to do well with a fixed front end, and I did replace the front end on my F109 with the F103 one which while it didn't have the adjustment at least you knew it wasn't going to change whenever you clipped something with the wheel. How often do you actually adjust it, I know my F104 hasn't been changed since I first set it up.
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I will be keeping my V2. Camber adjustment is huge. It is hard to tell with the pictures how to accomplish this.
However, the new rear bottom plate and right side motor plate will be a great addition to a v2.
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Old 05-15-2013, 07:20 AM   #65
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I doubt the TRF team made an F1 without camber adjustment !......i think we just need to be patient and wait to get more info .
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Old 05-15-2013, 07:24 AM   #66
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I expect that camber will be easy to adjust by just replacing those aluminum holders on the top arm.
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Old 05-15-2013, 09:25 AM   #67
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Indeed!



Spring over the steering knuckle....haven't seen that since my F102!





Anyone know why they chose TRF101 vs F105 for the name?
It's just a guess but they probably went with the 101 because it's the first official TRF F1 car. And like Terry said, a 105 would be an entirely new chassis.

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Old 05-15-2013, 10:07 AM   #68
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Has some nice refinements
Was hoping for more on that front end...

hadn't seen the low-cg motor mount before
rear pod is very nice, but still no quick adjustments for ride height
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Has some nice refinements
Was hoping for more on that front end...

hadn't seen the low-cg motor mount before
rear pod is very nice, but still no quick adjustments for ride height
I've been wanting to make a frankenstein F1 out of the rear pod from the TOP (which has shims for ride height instead of inserts), F1R flex chassis, and either the FGX IFS or some variation of Tamiya F104 front.

This car looks very promising though. Still want to know how camber is adjusted, but other than that looks very nice. I also agree that rear ride height adjustment needs to be updated.
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Spring over the steering knuckle....haven't seen that since my F102!
I always ran my F103 that way. I found the right kingpins for it and it always felt better on the track vs. spring on the bottom. There might have been a little preload.

Right now I can't decide if the front end was just made to use the available parts like the upper ball, or if they are going to have tuning parts to adjust camber. IT seems like a lot of machining for no adjustment.
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The front end in high detail...
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Shouldn't that say more image...singular?
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Should that say more image...singular.
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Old 05-15-2013, 03:50 PM   #75
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Just curious here.
The biggest criticisms are that camber isn't adjustable and rear ride height isn't adjustable without popping the axle out. Now over here we race our F1s indoors on carpet, so while the layouts change the surface remains the same and with my narrow rubber car I can't remember ever needing to adjust rear ride height and front camber since I first set it up. Even with my 1/12th scale and WGT I don't touch the camber once it's set to wear the foam tyres flat. Do you regularly adjust ride height and camber at the track?

The one thing I do miss though with the F104 is easily adjustable caster, it was easy to do with my F103 as you just put a washer or two under the mounting screws on the chassis. With my 1/12th and WGT it's one of the few adjustments I regularly make to control balance into and out of the corner. At least with the TRF101 both camber and caster can be adjusted by cutting some new upper plates.
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