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Old 06-25-2013, 09:40 AM   #256
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Sweet looking car Coach!
Where you going to put the ESC?
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Old 06-25-2013, 09:53 AM   #257
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Would it be ideal to use the f104 V2. roll damper instead you think? Instead of fine tunning with diff grease. I know it's probably a hassle to bleed the shock but anyone who runs touring cars can get a around that rather quickly. I could be wrong I think it'll be more consistent but then again I don't have the much experience with 1/12 scale style chassis.
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Old 06-25-2013, 10:06 AM   #258
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Esc will go on the left side opposite of rx.

Front ride height adjustment was 7mm with rubber tires when I built it according to kit.
Played around with kingpins and eclip and spacers under the uprights and got it to 5.5mm. Not where I really want it. Seems the front end was more designed for foam tires.

As far as the two screws that adjust front arm stiffness, I'll leave those out for now, but if I use them, I'll need a bigger spacer because arm was raised a little bit to alter ride height.
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Old 06-25-2013, 10:12 AM   #259
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Would it be ideal to use the f104 V2. roll damper instead you think? Instead of fine tunning with diff grease. I know it's probably a hassle to bleed the shock but anyone who runs touring cars can get a around that rather quickly. I could be wrong I think it'll be more consistent but then again I don't have the much experience with 1/12 scale style chassis.
Oil filled roll dampers would be a step backwards, as most pan cars have now adopted the tube type dampers, for simplicity, consistency, and ease of maintenance

Having said that, a V2 damper will work, but it's certainly not an upgrade
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Old 06-25-2013, 10:17 AM   #260
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So the lowest you can get the front ride height is 5.5mm arg that sucks ...i just ordered this kit ....why wouldnt they allow you to get it lower then that?.....do manufacturers not know that most of north america is running on rubbers?
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Another option I'm going to look into today is moving the spring to the bottom of kinpin(like the v2) and that might give better spacer adjustment on the uprights.
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^^^ cool let us know how you make out
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Placing spring at bottom of kingpin won't work because the front arms are one piece and won't move indecently like the v2.
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Placing spring at bottom of kingpin won't work because the front arms are one piece and won't move indecently like the v2.
Kingpin should still move up and down as long as it's attached to the axle.
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Old 06-25-2013, 11:52 AM   #265
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I dnt have the version 2 but you think i was better off going with it rather then the trf 101 since im gonna run rubbers?
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Kingpin still moves, but the upright needs to move in order for it to work.

V2 or trf101? Still can't tell until I can get car on the track for some extensive test and tune, but right now I'm tempted to just put the plastic front arms on. Lol
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What is the chassis thickness?
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So the lowest you can get the front ride height is 5.5mm arg that sucks ...i just ordered this kit ....why wouldnt they allow you to get it lower then that?.....do manufacturers not know that most of north america is running on rubbers?
With the medium front spring and the front end built per manual the minimum front ride height with the TCS (Shimuza) front tires is 5.5. and 6.5 with the older profile front tires.

You can lower the front by .5mm by removing the e-clip between the spring and steering block. using the soft front spring will yield another .5mm through spring compression.

To further lower the front the upper arm would need to be shimmed up; 1.5 provides all the adjustment range needed for various tires.


Since the suspension ball in the upper arm is held in place by the spring, relocating the springs below the lower arm would not work.
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Kingpin still moves, but the upright needs to move in order for it to work.

V2 or trf101? Still can't tell until I can get car on the track for some extensive test and tune, but right now I'm tempted to just put the plastic front arms on. Lol
Later versions of the F103 had the spring below the arm and the upper arm did not move either. You just need a long enough king pin and the steering knuckle has to be affixed to the king pin either with e-clips on top and bottom or a set screw.
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