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Old 03-28-2013, 11:00 AM   #76
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What do you call what I am doing you prick? It's called research. Listening to others opinions, taking them on board to make a decision.

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I'm asking the retailer that is selling the car to give me a reason to not purchase something else from someone else and you people have a big cry. Because I am curious. The car isn't released yet, I am going to HAVE to take a retailers response on board with my decision. I HAVE tried to do my own research but there's nothing out there on this chassis.

Put the tampons back and stop whinging. Seriously, WTF is wrong with you?
No need for any of this please move on or be gone from rctech , your choice doesn't matter to me either way
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Old 03-28-2013, 05:58 PM   #77
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No need for any of this please move on or be gone from rctech , your choice doesn't matter to me either way
You're right, there is absolutely no need for it. Not sure why I get punished for defending myself but whatever. Guess it's because I'm the newer member.
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Old 04-03-2013, 08:14 AM   #78
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More info can be found here

http://www.cso.com.hk/cso1/
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Old 04-03-2013, 08:21 AM   #79
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just found out CSO just released a new layshaft clamp
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just found out CSO just released a new layshaft clamp
Hmm, well that's different. What is the reason/benefit for using this design?
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Old 04-03-2013, 09:11 AM   #81
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Is the car available yet??
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Old 04-03-2013, 09:31 AM   #82
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Hmm, well that's different. What is the reason/benefit for using this design?
This will hold the shaft bearings in place even after removing the top screws on the layshaft bulkheads.
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Old 04-03-2013, 11:24 AM   #83
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Yes, this car is released in market already
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Yes, this car is released in market already
What's the retail price and is there a dealer in North America?
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Hmm, well that's different. What is the reason/benefit for using this design?
Should allow you to shim the Top deck up and make it float free of the layshaft mount. Kinda like what the Factory Tamiya guys where doing before the raceberry kit.
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What's the retail price and is there a dealer in North America?
not sure. You may email to ask about it. Personally, this is a good value car. Many people loves the comlatibility and availability of its parts to other cars.
I have seen the demo car, i would definitely give it a try
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Should allow you to shim the Top deck up and make it float free of the layshaft mount. Kinda like what the Factory Tamiya guys where doing before the raceberry kit.
Ah, yes - I didn't notice the screws were missing from the upper deck.
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I would like to hear from the guys that have bought this kit. How is the build quality? Setup pretty straight forward like 3 degrees of toe in is 3 degrees? How is it on the track? Does it compare to a T4? I know it has only been released for a week, but anyone have comments?
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I know Xray makes a big deal about Swiss duraluminum and luxury this and that. No doubt they produce an excellent car. However, just like everyone else most of their production is outsourced. There is nothing wrong with this. Apple buys complete iPhones from their manufacturer Foxconn in China. What we are seeing with Spec-R and CSO are the manufacturers of Xray, Tamiya, TOP, Kyosho, etc... chassis, molded parts and alloy parts making a few changes and marketing their own chassis.

Why are they so cheap? Because they are cutting out all the middle men and selling kits direct. A T4 starts out as parts in China that Xray buys (material and shipping costs) and bags as kits in Slovakia (marketing, facility and payroll overheads) then ships to RC America (marketing, shipping cost, facility and payroll overheads) then ships to an online store or LHS (shipping cost, facility and payroll overheads).

Everything in Parentheses is why a T4 costs $600.

A Spec-R or CSO starts in China as a complete kit (lower material, marketing and shipping costs) then goes to an online store or LHS (shipping cost, facility and payroll overheads).

Everything in Parentheses is why a Spec-R or CSO costs less than $300.
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I know Xray makes a big deal about Swiss duraluminum and luxury this and that. No doubt they produce an excellent car. However, just like everyone else most of their production is outsourced. There is nothing wrong with this. Apple buys complete iPhones from their manufacturer Foxconn in China. What we are seeing with Spec-R and CSO are the manufacturers of Xray, Tamiya, TOP, Kyosho, etc... chassis, molded parts and alloy parts making a few changes and marketing their own chassis.
How do you know that their production is outsourced?

I have trouble believing that XRAY's quality is Made in China.
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