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Old 02-26-2013, 08:55 PM   #286
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I guess I need further explanation of the mention in the driver's meeting of the Turnigy motors. The drivers in question with Trackstar motors are or are not ROAR approved? Who's using them?

Lon, I'm pretty sure you need to hop in the 104V2 thread and school everyone on car setup. Whatever you're doing (or not doing) is clearly working. Makes me re-build the car every time I see how fast you're tossing that bastard around the track.
Due to my oversight at race one we are allowing the Turnigy motors to run. UF1 rules state ROAR approved Motor, Battery, and ESC running in blinky mode.
There is no doubt that the Turnigy motor yields great performance for the money, but no one can really tell me what it is. My hunch is that it is Turnigy's version of the D3.5 Motor which is not ROAR approved, but I have no evidence of this. We will run out the rest of the series with the Turnigy allowed to run. They will not be legal for future series, indoor or outdoor. Hope this clarifies things.
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Due to my oversight at race one we are allowing the Turnigy motors to run. UF1 rules state ROAR approved Motor, Battery, and ESC running in blinky mode.
There is no doubt that the Turnigy motor yields great performance for the money, but no one can really tell me what it is. My hunch is that it is Turnigy's version of the D3.5 Motor which is not ROAR approved, but I have no evidence of this. We will run out the rest of the series with the Turnigy allowed to run. They will not be legal for future series, indoor or outdoor. Hope this clarifies things.
Why wouldn't you want a competitive 34 dollar motor in the mix for us to use.
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If you havent planned a race day at Eclipse now would be a great chance to. It could be the test track like Jersez is. I am sure a major event will be planned here soon.

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Due to my oversight at race one we are allowing the Turnigy motors to run. UF1 rules state ROAR approved Motor, Battery, and ESC running in blinky mode.
There is no doubt that the Turnigy motor yields great performance for the money, but no one can really tell me what it is. My hunch is that it is Turnigy's version of the D3.5 Motor which is not ROAR approved, but I have no evidence of this. We will run out the rest of the series with the Turnigy allowed to run. They will not be legal for future series, indoor or outdoor. Hope this clarifies things.
Brad thank you for allowing us to continue running the Turnigy motor for the rest of the UF1 series!

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We should also bring in more people for the planning of future series and discus things like rule changes and what should and should not be legal. Not trying to be rude but it should not all be left up to one person.
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We should also bring in more people for the planning of future series and discus things like rule changes and what should and should not be legal. Not trying to be rude but it should not all be left up to one person.
Thats not a bad idea. Maybe a representative from each track that host a race ?
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Why wouldn't you want a competitive 34 dollar motor in the mix for us to use.
Lon, it has nothing to do with the price of the motor. I didn't make the rules, we adopted them because they have been proven over multiple seasons to make for good racing in other areas. The rule says ROAR approved, the Turnigy track star does not fit this description, I am trying to be gracious about this. It is not so much about this motor , it is about what shows up if you don't stick to the rules. I don't want this series to turn into motor of the week.

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Brad thank you for allowing us to continue running the Turnigy motor for the rest of the UF1 series!
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We should also bring in more people for the planning of future series and discus things like rule changes and what should and should not be legal. Not trying to be rude but it should not all be left up to one person.
I want to be clear on something, so far the series is running very well, and I think we are getting a lot of attention. I think that some of this is due to the fact that we are a UF1 affiliate. If this continues into the summer and next winter it will be run under the UF1 banner. I really have no desire to try and reinvent anything about the way this works, as far as I can tell there is nothing wrong with the rules or the format. Too many opinions leads to arguments and someone always ends up upset. If UF1 changes something, we will adopt those changes, but otherwise I want to show up and race. I am always willing to listen to an idea or a suggestion, improvement is not a bad thing, but everyone always thinks they can do it better. I am trying to keep this simple and have it be about racing and not politics.

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Thats not a bad idea. Maybe a representative from each track that host a race ?
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.... If this continues into the summer and next winter it will be run under the UF1 banner. I really have no desire to try and reinvent anything about the way this works, as far as I can tell there is nothing wrong with the rules or the format.... If UF1 changes something, we will adopt those changes, but otherwise I want to show up and race.
I agree, if we (not me, speaking to location) are to pursue with the Midwest UF1 races; I think it should follow the rules laid out by the official governing body. There is a reason USVTA is what it is and UF1 is growing in size. This inaugural series is great and I thank Brad for pushing so hard to make it as awesome as possible. We all know there are and will be bumps in the road the first time you do anything and so far so good! If I were to cast a vote I would say push the next UF1 series to be identical to the current UF1 rules, tires rules and all.

And to keep up the growing Midwest scene for this first year, I also agree with you for allowing the continued use of the Turnigy. I donít run it but I donít want to turn away cars that do during the first year of the series.

Hopefully it continues to grow, 16ish cars the first round, 23ish the second. Thatís awesome!!! There have been a total of 33 different drivers participate, imagine if we can get everyone to travel to the tracks!!! CRAZY!
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Here are the current standings after 4 days of racing, as you can see the battle at the top is pretty heated

I was pretty thorough in adding up the points, but if I missed something please let me know
There are a few mistakesÖ

Its TRAUT!!!! Not Traudt Thatís a Toledo thing haha
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I agree, if we (not me, speaking to location) are to pursue with the Midwest UF1 races; I think it should follow the rules laid out by the official governing body. There is a reason USVTA is what it is and UF1 is growing in size. This inaugural series is great and I thank Brad for pushing so hard to make it as awesome as possible. We all know there are and will be bumps in the road the first time you do anything and so far so good! If I were to cast a vote I would say push the next UF1 series to be identical to the current UF1 rules, tires rules and all.

And to keep up the growing Midwest scene for this first year, I also agree with you for allowing the continued use of the Turnigy. I donít run it but I donít want to turn away cars that do during the first year of the series.

Hopefully it continues to grow, 16ish cars the first round, 23ish the second. Thatís awesome!!! There have been a total of 33 different drivers participate, imagine if we can get everyone to travel to the tracks!!! CRAZY!
Thanks for the support Nick, it was a bummer that you couldnt join us last weekend, but you definitely had a higher priority to take care of.
As far as rules go, in regards to tires, I ran the spec tire concept past Tony Phalen before we made it the rule, and he was ok with it. While no official change has been made to the rules, I have heard that there were some issues with regards to tires out in California for this last series, and that there may be a change coming.
The series will grow without a doubt, if everything falls into place we could see 3 new tracks hold races next year. Eclipse is on my radar, and after we are done with this series and I take a breather I will probably take a ride over and run with them. I hear that F1 is catching fire at The Gate as well, so that is another possiblity. For outdoor I would like to run maybe 4 events this summer, and they would probably be 1 day races run alongside other events.
Tentative locations are Detroit, Toledo, Coloma, and Joliet. We will see how this plays out. I am willing to entertain other venues as well, so let me know if there are more.
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Its TRAUT!!!! Not Traudt Thatís a Toledo thing haha
Noted, I didnt think the spelling was right, and I should probably know better anyways
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Noted, I didnt think the spelling was right, and I should probably know better anyways
Its ok just giving you a hard time For some reason they haven't changed it in the computer system at HSW

As far as tires, I was just using that as an example of a difference between the series.

I wish I could have been there! I had been planning on it ever since the schedule came out. But priorities with the newborn.

UPDATE: www.trautengineering.com has been updated with some photos and results from round 2 of the UF1 Midwest series.

Anybody wanting to support the webpage with photos/video send them to info@trautengineering.com thanks!
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looks like you guys are having as much fun as we are down here in Texas, are you guys running teams with points too? that makes it even more fun! now we just need to get Brad back to work in the lab working on those 2013 liveries! I need to update the local Lotus team!!
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looks like you guys are having as much fun as we are down here in Texas, are you guys running teams with points too? that makes it even more fun! now we just need to get Brad back to work in the lab working on those 2013 liveries! I need to update the local Lotus team!!
I donít know about an official points system for teams but I think next season my brothers and me and some of our friends are going to act like we are team cars with similar paint schemes.
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Due to my oversight at race one we are allowing the Turnigy motors to run. UF1 rules state ROAR approved Motor, Battery, and ESC running in blinky mode.
There is no doubt that the Turnigy motor yields great performance for the money, but no one can really tell me what it is. My hunch is that it is Turnigy's version of the D3.5 Motor which is not ROAR approved, but I have no evidence of this. We will run out the rest of the series with the Turnigy allowed to run. They will not be legal for future series, indoor or outdoor. Hope this clarifies things.
Actually from what I have read on the aTrackstar thread, the motors share design and parts(including rotor and sensor board) with the Reedy Sonics.
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