Originally posted by Exterminator
Do you really think that ROAR would listen. People have been trying that for a long time. Nothing is changing. We still don't have online voting. Revups that come after voting is closed. Exxcom that doesn't answer to anyone. No way to remove people from office that don't perform their job. No standard or crew to run a national event. the list is long and not one person at ROAR will step up and take the reigns. (it's volintary so it's not my responsibility).
Dude get the blinders off!! Not everyone hides and there are people here who helping make changes. I personally have beeninvolved with ROAR for 3 years as I started as the Region 5 director. It was bad here as the region director ahead of of me just up and quit, theones prior never did a thing and even further back one most likely embezzled money and pissed off people. Region 5 in two years is now the third largest region in the country behind Florida and California. I took the reigns of the oval committee and even thoguh tings have been bumpy, we have a new surge of oval members and oval is coming back. Oval has changed because of people listneing anf making efforts. Region 5 has changed because of making efforts and support of everyone and taking risks.
You can blame ROAR all oyu want....you can scream for online voting, you can scream for all the things. Changes are happening. Online voting hs been discussed for the pastyear at the ExComm. The webiste is being revamped and this will be hopefully worked out in the future.
ROAR is at fault for this event as much as the host is. ROAR can not possible screen every possible item for a national event. There is a certain amount faith, trust , and confidence that must be afforded to the host that they will be able to complete the task at hand. It is very similar to being a manager of department in which you train your personell and you give them guidleines on what is needed and you allow the meployee to run wiht the project. The manager provides guidance, but the process is up to the employee. As a manager you can't hand-hold the employee, otherwise you might as well do the job yourself. Hosting a national event is no different. Management and the employee failed. Another way is to think about raising a child....you give them all they need to succeed..it's the effort on their part and the decision they make whcih will ultimately control the outcome.
To say ROAR isn't listening is wrong. You wouldn't see people like Chris R. (Region 1) and Carl (Region 2) and myself on here askign what is up, askign to be e-miled details, etc. This constant bashing of ROAR is rediculous and as basically trial by Internet. There are so many factors weighing into issues and problems that they can not all possibly be discussed here nor should they be. if this race went well with maybe just the brushless conflicts...none of oyu would even be on the site complaining. I saw the posts about the upcomgin races
I for one am tired of everybody dropping back to the one commnet a ROAR rep made on we are volunteers. I for agree we are accountable no matter the situation. Everyone is ready to burn down ROAR and start new orgs....welll ROAR has outlasted them and will continue. Adversity will make the org stronger, but instead of bitching all the time help your region directors. THIS IS WHERE IT NEEDS TO HAPPEN. The ExComm listens, but it also has to make changes or no changes that effect 6,000+ members
As far as late Rev-Ups. there have been mailign issues. I have pursued getting the Rev-Up on the websites to assist in this situation. Ths will happen in the future with the website. But you can also make the effort. Call/contact your region director, log onto the webiste and call Fred. Most of the time it's a change of address, unlcear address on the entry forms, simple items that really can be solved.
BTW..online voting isn't going to change the world. It will yes increase the number of people that vote. Changes can happen by voting, but oyu as memebrs need to get oyur votes in. Only 100+ ever vote.....and don't use the Rev-Up as an excuse.
There are good and bad with each situation and organization. LEt's not fortget the great efforts and support of the people workign on it.