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Old 10-09-2012, 01:22 AM   #511
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I see that the chassis for the T4 is 94mm wide on Xray's site, how much narrower than the '12 is it?
The T3/12 is 94mm but is about 10mm wider where the steering servo nub is
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Old 10-09-2012, 01:28 AM   #512
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Some of these comments really make me laugh! I would love to see some of the so called experts on here (namely porsche928 and rckinght) actually drive their cars round a track.

I would almost guarantee that whatever car you were given, be it an xray, hot bodies, schumacher, yokomo, etc the car would most definitely out perform you as a driver!

If you think buying a new car will make you a better driver, you are sadly mistaken! There are not many drivers out there who can actually out drive any of the production cars that are currently on the market.

And rckinght - trust me, having 25 degrees of steering is more than plenty, and will people stop going on about the suspension holders! THEY MAKE NO DIFFERENCE IN THE PERFORMANCE OF THE CAR!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

RANT OVER!
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Old 10-09-2012, 01:44 AM   #513
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and will people stop going on about the suspension holders! THEY MAKE NO DIFFERENCE IN THE PERFORMANCE OF THE CAR!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

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Trust me, they do. Try them, you might like them. They can be seen as a tuning option, but not a necessity, running more droop gave a similar feeling to changing to those suspension holders though.
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Old 10-09-2012, 01:55 AM   #514
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Trust me, they do. Try them, you might like them. They can be seen as a tuning option, but not a necessity, running more droop gave a similar feeling to changing to those suspension holders though.
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Old 10-09-2012, 02:15 AM   #515
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U are probably right but, why spray the shading in ur shell with black when u cam shade it with white?
BECAUSE u want black shading..........

This is an example a figure of speech, just so u know that some people have different requirements, needs.
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Old 10-09-2012, 02:26 AM   #516
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U are probably right but, why spray the shading in ur shell with black when u cam shade it with white?
BECAUSE u want black shading..........

This is an example a figure of speech, just so u know that some people have different requirements, needs.
that's an expensive requirement.

But even still, why are people moaning about it? I mean, if that's the reasoning people will start moaning they cant have personalised coloured chassis' next. "I want a metallic blue one, but xray only do black........its not fair, xyz company are now doing any colour you want, that's so much better than xray!!!"

where do you draw the line?

If they really did offer a performance advantage, dont you think all the team drivers would be using them? Of course they would, and no they dont........so are they better? NO!

Do they look nicer? Probably. Not a reason to have them on a RACING CAR.
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Old 10-09-2012, 02:45 AM   #518
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That's too bad they want to make it more complicated than necessary. I'll take a bet that at least 50% of Xray owners would like them as a option.
Did I hear someone mention "toe blocks"

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Old 10-09-2012, 03:24 AM   #519
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Guys stop moaning about features the car hasn't got on a car that you don't even have! Its OK to express an oppion and to have some reservation about the design but until you have tried the car, thats all they are, oppions! To keep going on and on, and on, and on, and on, gets really, really, really boring.

Toe blocks anyone!


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Have you tried them?
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Guys, do you think that Xay will launch soon a "T4R", a cheaper version, as the T3R?
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The difference is $150.00 worth of toe, or free toe.
I like free toe
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The difference is $150.00 worth of toe, or free toe.
I like free toe
very well put

Just for comparison:
What is the maximum steering angle on the T3'12?

And as I already said yesterday in this thread:
Last Sunday I saw a T4 driving on a super tight track with many hairpin turns
The T4 was doing great and had plenty of steering.
So no reason for anybody to bother about those 25 degrees

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very well put

Just for comparison:
What is the maximum steering angle on the T3'12?

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I think the max with a steering knuckle up against a C-hub is roughly 29deg.
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I think the max with a steering knuckle up against a C-hub is roughly 29deg.
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So probably no need for ECS shafts anymore

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