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Old 11-26-2013, 06:07 AM   #5161
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I have mixed feelings about the suspension holders on the T4'14.

Although the car seems an improvement there are fewer settings available, as with the old car I could use any width shim I wanted to get the exact toe etc I was after.
Don't forget, there have been changes to the chassis etc on the new car so flex points are slightly different as well.

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Old 11-26-2013, 06:58 AM   #5162
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Yes, that's the point.
At least you understand me.
If you want the new style of holders but without all the Xray expense I would suggest the Reflex Racing conversion, their RX4 kit.

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P.S. You can't use the new T4'14 holders on the old T4 chassis as holes are in the wrong place.
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Old 11-26-2013, 07:00 AM   #5163
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If you want the new style of holders but without all the Xray expense I would suggest the Reflex Racing conversion, their RX4 kit.

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P.S. You can't use the new T4'14 holders on the old T4 chassis as holes are in the wrong place.
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Old 12-01-2013, 10:08 AM   #5164
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Dear anyone:
As i race always on tight corners track with little few high speed corners, i just feel the cars of other brands with conventional long length shocks run better seems be more reactive on curves.

Do somebody think that i should try change with aftermarket long shock tower of Raceberry to run long shocks(eg:tamiya) and springs(eg:HPI) on T4 2013?

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No. Try the softest springs you can get, and lighter shock oil. You need to be more specific on what, exactly, the car you have is doing, vs others. Rolls more? Has more steering? Lose or tight in the rear?
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Does anyone have experience with the Arrowmax T4 '13 top decks.

I need a new top deck and these look extremely well priced.

My concern is, as the saying goes, "if it looks too good to be true it probably is".
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Does anyone have experience with the Arrowmax T4 '13 top decks.

I need a new top deck and these look extremely well priced.

My concern is, as the saying goes, "if it looks too good to be true it probably is".

I cant say anything about the Arrowmax T4 topdeck, but i have ran the arrowmax T3'12 one. No problem with it...The weave was slightly different, maybe gave the '12 more flex. Kept it on the car till i sold it never put the stock one on again..
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No. Try the softest springs you can get, and lighter shock oil. You need to be more specific on what, exactly, the car you have is doing, vs others. Rolls more? Has more steering? Lose or tight in the rear?
My car has got problem in steering in tight corner, steering transition, and huge understering on highspeed curves.
My friend suggest me to use 3 holes piston instead of 4 holes, maybe even try thicker oil which i usually use 35wt oil.
And i want to try use long length tower due mostly front runners are using TCXX and BD7
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My car has got problem in steering in tight corner, steering transition, and huge understering on highspeed curves.
My friend suggest me to use 3 holes piston instead of 4 holes, maybe even try thicker oil which i usually use 35wt oil.
And i want to try use long length tower due mostly front runners are using TCXX and BD7
Yes, keep the three hole piston and use 30wt oil all around and a med to soft spring all around.

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My car has got problem in steering in tight corner, steering transition, and huge understering on highspeed curves.
My friend suggest me to use 3 holes piston instead of 4 holes, maybe even try thicker oil which i usually use 35wt oil.
And i want to try use long length tower due mostly front runners are using TCXX and BD7
Post your setup, then we can tell you what's wrong with it.
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I cant say anything about the Arrowmax T4 topdeck, but i have ran the arrowmax T3'12 one. No problem with it...The weave was slightly different, maybe gave the '12 more flex. Kept it on the car till i sold it never put the stock one on again..
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Post your setup, then we can tell you what's wrong with it.
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Downstop F5 R4
Ride height F4.8 R5.4
Camber F1.5 R2.0
R toe in 3.0
F toe out 1.0
Sway bar F1.3 R1.2
Spring F2.5 F2.3
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Dropping your rear diff oil to about 2k should increase that low speed steering by quite a lot, and increase your transition speed.

Assuming you are measuring droop as described in the manual, try going to 5.5 or 6 in front droop, it should help with more steering in the high speed sweepers.

Most 35wt oil is around 450CST, I believe that's too heavy for the T4, and going lighter, even to 400 will help in transition speed as well.
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Dropping your rear diff oil to about 2k should increase that low speed steering by quite a lot, and increase your transition speed.

Assuming you are measuring droop as described in the manual, try going to 5.5 or 6 in front droop, it should help with more steering in the high speed sweepers.

Most 35wt oil is around 450CST, I believe that's too heavy for the T4, and going lighter, even to 400 will help in transition speed as well.
You mean me to use trinity 30?
About downstop i just can adjust to 6 due my gauge doesn't have 0.5 step.
Not quite sure of gear diff 2K, due whenever i use 5k it gaves me more confidence but not when i change to 3k, anyway i will try all of them.

How about to try all 2.3 spring?

Can anybody tell me if worth to try RIDE softests short spring?

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You mean me to use trinity 30?
About downstop i just can adjust to 6 due my gauge doesn't have 0.5 step.
Not quite sure of gear diff 2K, due whenever i use 5k it gaves me more confidence but not when i change to 3k, anyway i will try all of them.

How about to try all 2.3 spring?

Can anybody tell me if worth to try RIDE softests short spring?

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I've not tried 2.3 all around (or Ride springs), but it's certainly an easy test. Yea, I would try going to 30wt.

I'll agree that going to 5k would make the car easier to drive, increasing confidence, but for me it typically kills low speed steering (and transition speed) too much, maybe find another way to gain that confidence.

It's possible you can try thinner shock oil as described above and gain what you need, so try the diff change last.
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