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Old 09-30-2012, 11:15 AM   #211
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I hope so ... I just got a used but flawless 2012 for $300 when I have $300 worth of top parts ..... the EX is nice but didn't seem this nice ...
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Thousands of hours of testing by drivers around the world vs. tens of hours making something that looks cool in Solidworks.
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Old 09-30-2012, 11:16 AM   #213
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The TC3. The shaft was a gimmick. The revolutionary part was it has the first properly engineered suspension. All current cars have suspension geometry derived from the TC3

I think the T4 looks great. I applaud Xray for taking some chances, outlining a design breif, and executing changes to achieve those goals. This is the first Xray that does not follow Tamaiyas lead.

Also, I think the way Xray, AE, and Schumacher mount arms is the best. Infinite adjustability without having an infinite number or mounts.
Exactly! that was what 12 years ago? This was during a time when touring cars was still in its infancy.
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I think it's a bit of a stretch to say Xray didn't follow Tamiya's lead. Just about every manufacture has done so and for good reason. The two design features I think Xray should have followed were a solid motor mount and pivot ball toe blocks. Xray's selling point was lowered cg, quality and lower price point. I just hope they pump out these items soon. I can't say I'm happy to buy them as options along with the aluminum steering already.

I must say I'm thrilled about the new shocks.

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The TC3. The shaft was a gimmick. The revolutionary part was it has the first properly engineered suspension. All current cars have suspension geometry derived from the TC3

I think the T4 looks great. I applaud Xray for taking some chances, outlining a design breif, and executing changes to achieve those goals. This is the first Xray that does not follow Tamaiyas lead.

Also, I think the way Xray, AE, and Schumacher mount arms is the best. Infinite adjustability without having an infinite number or mounts.
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Old 09-30-2012, 09:14 PM   #215
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Car looks good. Going to upgrade from my old Photon to maybe the new EX or the T4. Just trying to tell myself if the quality of the car is worth the extra $250 over the EX.
I really like the new photon, but I'm sure the x ray will be a great car as well.
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Old 10-01-2012, 12:14 AM   #216
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TEAM XRAY needs to invest in MeenV based on his recent performance if they want to make this new series a World winner.
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Old 10-01-2012, 01:06 AM   #217
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Car looks good. Going to upgrade from my old Photon to maybe the new EX or the T4. Just trying to tell myself if the quality of the car is worth the extra $250 over the EX.
My 15yr old son brought a T3/12 to replace his Photon which he raced for 2yrs and I can say it was well worth the extra $$$.I don't even think he would bother raceing the new Photon even if he got it for free
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I just upgraded my Xray T3 '12 by adding on the Exotek XR3'12 chassis and pillow ball suspension blocks. I drove it for the first time today and it feels great. Now I don't have to worry about breaking those plastic Xray Lower Suspension holders anymore.
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I just upgraded my Xray T3 '12 by adding on the Exotek XR3'12 chassis and pillow ball suspension blocks. I drove it for the first time today and it feels great. Now I don't have to worry about breaking those plastic Xray Lower Suspension holders anymore.
Looks good..lets hope you dont start breaking arms and bending hingepins
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does anyone run ball pillow suppension blocks?


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Old 10-01-2012, 02:18 AM   #221
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I just upgraded my Xray T3 '12 by adding on the Exotek XR3'12 chassis and pillow ball suspension blocks. I drove it for the first time today and it feels great. Now I don't have to worry about breaking those plastic Xray Lower Suspension holders anymore.
Very nice! But i'd like to see a picture of them on 'your' car. The picture you have posted is from the exotek website.
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does anyone run ball pillow suppension blocks?


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Only people who have bought optional chassis' etc from other manufacturers like Exotek, there's another company that does similar stuff but I can't remember their name.

Have to confess, I don't know anyone who runs pillow ball suspension (though a few have used other chassis' including me)... I have also never heard of anyone snapping the plastic pivot blocks.
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Oh right, Ball suspension blocks, its just I've never heard anyone going on about them before.

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I just upgraded my Xray T3 '12 by adding on the Exotek XR3'12 chassis and pillow ball suspension blocks. I drove it for the first time today and it feels great. Now I don't have to worry about breaking those plastic Xray Lower Suspension holders anymore.
If you are somehow breaking the suspension holders (god knows how?), then the chances are things will be more expensive when you bend hindge pins, break wishbones or even break a chassis.

In an impact..........................something has to give!

Nothing wrong with the plastic suspension holders - if there was, then why do the likes of hagberg run them?
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Old 10-01-2012, 03:12 AM   #225
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I would rather use stock Xray chassis than Exotek. I not going to spend another $100, besides the Exotek ones look like bricks.

I wish Xray would have also included the graphite arms, uprights and etc. I admit was surprised to not see them in the kit.
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