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Old 11-18-2012, 01:57 AM   #1591
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More often than not thats when the car is quickest when its on edge. Its fairly easily to "back off" set up wise when the car is fast and teaction rolling.
Traction rolling never makes the car faster and never puts the car on edge in the right way, having to back off if your car is about to roll will slow you down much more than having a car that doesn't roll in the first place.

Traction roll is easy to achieve - give yourself a 10mm ride height for a start - will that be quicker than a 5mm ride height?......NO!

Gaining more steering is quite easy, but normally it is not what you do with the front end, it is what you do with your back end that increases this. Examples being higher your real roll centre, stand your rear shocks up, stiffen rear roll bar - making the rear end more loose will always give more front end steering.

It also depends on where you want the steering with what setup change to make, if it is more initial steering you may stiffen the front springs, if it is coming out of the corner you may soften the front springs - it is always a compromise on setup. Another example would be gear diff oil - lighter makes the car rotate quicker, heavier gives more on power steering.

If you are running the kit setup and want more steering, the first thing I would do would be change the oil all round to 400cst and change the rear springs to match your front springs, run with more bump steer (up to 3.5mm) and also run more camber on the front than the rear.

You will then have plenty of steering!
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Old 11-18-2012, 07:23 AM   #1592
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How are you drifters liking it?
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Old 11-18-2012, 10:08 AM   #1593
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I don't think anyone really buys a T4 to go drifting.... and if they had enough money, there are better options. Besides, the steering is limited to 25 degrees, hah.
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Old 11-18-2012, 12:16 PM   #1594
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Just use a stack of spacers with a smaller outer diameter on the center ballstud and you could achieve more than 25 degrees, but you don't need that for racing. It's a race car. Best one I've owned so far.
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Old 11-18-2012, 12:35 PM   #1595
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From what I can see the faster cars are beating you in the 2nd half of the infield. From the start to the short straight all the way thru the infield they are smooth. You throw it in the corner and the car stops kinda rather than maintaining consistent motion.
Sounds about right.

When I try to drive far more smoothly, my lap times just aren't as good
Some of it is very slight setup tweaks (which I haven't yet found) to give grip in certain places on the track etc.

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Old 11-18-2012, 02:03 PM   #1596
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Sounds about right.

When I try to drive far more smoothly, my lap times just aren't as good
Some of it is very slight setup tweaks (which I haven't yet found) to give grip in certain places on the track etc.

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Come on Skiddins, pull your finger out mate, Chris should be easy to beat, he is not known as a carpet specialist
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Old 11-18-2012, 02:24 PM   #1597
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Come on Skiddins, pull your finger out mate, Chris should be easy to beat, he is not known as a carpet specialist
It's not the lack of carpet speciality that causes concern.

It's the '5 times in succession British Modified Touring Car Champion' bit that suggests his repeated kicking of my arse on carpet is more than simply luck

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P.S. Beat him the last two weeks, (we'll ignore the fact that car failure and poor driving from others more than helped)
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Old 11-18-2012, 02:43 PM   #1598
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drove the cars today in both 17.5 blinky and 17.5 boosted, they where both very easy cars to drive, only problem i was having today was that i stripped 2 gears in total between both cars, no big crashes or hits that should cause my gears to strip, but they did. Is anybody else having this issue?
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drove the cars today in both 17.5 blinky and 17.5 boosted, they where both very easy cars to drive, only problem i was having today was that i stripped 2 gears in total between both cars, no big crashes or hits that should cause my gears to strip, but they did. Is anybody else having this issue?
I haven't, but check that the motor screws are not bottoming out in the motor before they tighten properly on the motor mount.

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P.S. Beat him the last two weeks, (we'll ignore the fact that car failure and poor driving from others more than helped)


A win is a win
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Haven't experienced any spur gear issues here. Early on I installed washers behind the motor screws to secure the motor with more surface area so the screws don't gouge up the aluminum on the mount. I like the idea I can really torque the screws down and not have to worry about ruining the aluminum and worst, not tightening the motor down fully.
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Well after some not so great driving last weekend I bent my motor mount.. Didn't notice until I went racing yesterday and was wondering why the pinion wasn't straight.. It took a 0.5mm shimm to bring the motor out enough to make it anywhere near straight.

Will the t3 motor guard fit the t4? And is there a better designed motor mout available that wont bend like rubber?
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Old 11-18-2012, 04:29 PM   #1603
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Will the t3 motor guard fit the t4? And is there a better designed motor mout available that wont bend like rubber?
Yes, and don't know
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Old 11-18-2012, 04:33 PM   #1604
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Well, my final in 13.5open from EWS today (Sorex 32JB's).

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ERROR: If you can see this, then YouTube is down or you don't have Flash installed.


Again, carpet setup, except;

2mm bump steer.
2000cSt rear diff
2.7 rear springs in hole 2

2.3-2.6 rear springs were just OK early on but as grip improved they started to make the car a little tail happy through chicanes.
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Old 11-18-2012, 05:26 PM   #1605
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You guys should give yourselfs more credit driving with stick controls. I couldnt do it at those speeds.
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