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Old 12-12-2012, 06:45 PM
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Originally Posted by InspGadgt
red lube - approx 1000wt
white lube - 3000wt
blue lube - 10000wt

Source: https://www.teamcrc.com/crc/modules....653&highlight=
See: Link to Lube
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That is the new lube in the tubes. He was asking about the older stuff in the bottles with the color coded caps.
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InspGagdt is right about the old caps.

BVoltz is right about the new bottles.

We switched a couple of years ago, but there are still old bottles floating around out there.
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Old 12-14-2012, 01:29 AM
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I bought my CRC Xi less than 2 months ago and it came with a small bottle with a red top.
It's one step away from being water.

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Is there supposed to be any slop on the hingepin for the upper arms? I installed the 3 washers on the pin, but it looks like there is space for a few more. Is this normal?
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Originally Posted by Csaari77
Is there supposed to be any slop on the hingepin for the upper arms? I installed the 3 washers on the pin, but it looks like there is space for a few more. Is this normal?
I don't see any free space on mine. Are you sure you used the correct (plastic) washers? If you can, measure the distance between the centers of the arms as well as thicknesses of other items and we may be able to identify any issues there may be.
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If you guys are looking to get another, or looking at getting one altogether, mine's up for sale.

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Originally Posted by linkless
I don't see any free space on mine. Are you sure you used the correct (plastic) washers? If you can, measure the distance between the centers of the arms as well as thicknesses of other items and we may be able to identify any issues there may be.
I'm positive I used the correct washers. I even bought another pack of washers and they are the same as the ones that I have on my front end. I've attached a few pictures to show you what I'm talking about.
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For some reason, the washers look way thinner than the ones on my cars. I measured the best I could without taking the car apart and came up with .015" for each washer. Yours look to be about half that. The replacement ones should be part number 1253. Strange thing is I have spares that I ordered a while back and some measure .015 and some are .0065 (which is what it looks like you have).
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Newbie question...

Pod droop, how important is it? The reason I'm asking is that I had a small crash but it popped the end off the shock, thus I put a new one one, but I'm not sure how measure the droop (yes I did read the setup guild for the XL) but I really need a pictures or something...

The reason I'm asking, is the car was not handling as well after, and felt less responsive... I'm running 3.5m of RH front, center and rear... It ran about .2 second slower, and it was noticeable on the infield.

As I understand it, I pick up by the role over tube, just before the wheel lift, and measure, but measure what the rear pod or the front pod (at the hing point (center))... or do I have this wrong?

I just found this:
- Speed Merchant Rev6 - Bruce Carbone - Pod Droop vs Chassis Sag -

While processing the setup sheet for the Team Speed Merchant Rev6, Speed Merchant's boss Bruce Carbone asked to add a field named "Chassis Sag" on the document. Questioning about what is Chassis Sag and if that is similar to Pod Droop, Bruce provide the following details:

Pod Droop is how far past even the bottom plate drops below the chassis at the center shock's full extension. In other words, if you look at the car from the side, and hold it in the air, it's how many degrees or millimeters the bottom plate angles downward. Personally, I've always used degrees...i.e. "I have about 2 degrees of Droop", but some people like to use Millimeters, which is basically Down-Travel past center, or past the chassis and bottom plate being even.

Chassis Sag...... is when the car is completely ready to run....ready to hit the track. Push down on your roll over antenna.....generally, the car should squat and return up, but not all the way (Unless you have your center spring really maxed out). Now, if you gently pull up on your roll over antenna, the chassis should lift until it hits the shock's full extension. Usually, about 1/2 mm, but sometimes more (especially is you have a lot of Pod Droop (bumpy tracks)). The more Chassis Sag you have, the more mellow your car is to drive, But if you have a lot of Sag, and a lot of Droop, the car will get very unpredictable...especially "off-power"...like entering a sharp 180 degree turn.....because the Droop will let too much weight transfer to the front of the car.
Hope it helps... Now off to correct my car... I think I only have a bout 1m of droop, not sure on the sag....

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Pod droop is very important. It effects how much weight gets transfered to the front of the car off power. More droop = more weight transfer. I measure ride height at front of pod then pull where shock attaches to pod till suspension locks out and re measure, that # is your droop.

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Is there a list of the CRC center shock springs in order from softest to hardest (or vis-versa)?

The CRC site lists each spring as the color then 7# or 9# or whatever. Does that mean each spring rate is 7 or 9 or whatever lbs? So that would mean softest to hardest:

Blue
White
Red
Green
Purple
Black

Just somewhat new to 1/12th and its not real clear to me what is what. Just wanting to experiment at the local track a bit.

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Originally Posted by 303slowdown
Pod droop is very important. It effects how much weight gets transfered to the front of the car off power. More droop = more weight transfer. I measure ride height at front of pod then pull where shock attaches to pod till suspension lacks out and re measure, that # is your droop.
many thanks... So let me be very clear, to adjust this, you do this by the ball cup on the bottom of the shock, correct?
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Originally Posted by 3D-Seth
Is there a list of the CRC center shock springs in order from softest to hardest (or vis-versa)?

The CRC site lists each spring as the color then 7# or 9# or whatever. Does that mean each spring rate is 7 or 9 or whatever lbs? So that would mean softest to hardest:

Blue
White
Red
Green
Purple
Black

Just somewhat new to 1/12th and its not real clear to me what is what. Just wanting to experiment at the local track a bit.

Thanks!
Seth
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many thanks... So let me be very clear, to adjust this, you do this by the ball cup on the bottom of the shock, correct?

Yep and yep. You're both correct.
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Originally Posted by andrewdoherty
Yep and yep. You're both correct.
Thanks!
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