Exe

I didn't get it yet, but i was told it will be just for 5 minutes with good 3300 batts on carpet well, anyway, you can always limit the power...

here you can find dimensions for basicxl
http://www.lehner-motoren.de/msbasic-xl_mas.php
i just took a look on my novak, novak is even longe with that plastic back on the motor.

this is the esc i will use...
http://www.schulze-elektronik-gmbh.de/ufo-e.htm

almost same size as novak

kufman

iTrader: (6)

I own both the novak and the schulze/pletty and the novak dosn't even come close to being the same. Novak's numbers are measured a little bit differently than everybody elses. My Lehner 4200 can easily beat a novak 5800. I had video proof until rcpics deleted my video. I will have to repost is somewhere else. Basically the difference is that novak measures their Kv (RPM/V) with the motor unloaded. Many of the other manufacturers list their Kv at rated continuous current. When I get the time I will test the novak at work and find out what it's RPM is at different loading levels (10A, 15A, 20A, etc ..). I will run the same test on my other systems and then I will have an equal ground for comparison. Another difference is the power rating on the controllers. The u-force is good for 75 amps and the novak is good for 225/pack voltage. So at 7.2 volts the novak controller is good for 31.25 amps. Since torque is based on Amps (In-Oz/Amp) the higher current capability will allow a motor to put out more torque and just plain more power (P=I*V). There is also a factor of 6 is the on resistance (the novak has 6 times more resistance per phase). The novak is cheaper, but it is definately not equal to a Schulze/Pletty.

My Setup:

Schulze U-Force75
Plettenberg Shadow
72/23 * 2.5 gearing on new tires (not sure what the diameter is)
Hurricane 1.165-1.169 packs
I get about 6.5 minutes of runtime on carpet

Here is the German page for the Shadow
http://www.plettenberg-motoren.com/Daten/HP220car.htm

Exe

i was talking about the size of the motor not the power...
by the way, it's good thing that you explained all the stuff

kufman

iTrader: (6)

Ooops Useful anyway I guess.