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Old 12-04-2012, 11:22 AM   #1156
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2 O-Rings in the dampers instead of 1 O-Ring and the plastic washer!
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Old 12-04-2012, 11:22 AM   #1157
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What does 2 orings on the setup sheet mean?
The shocks come with 1 oring and a thick spacer. Most have went to the thin spacer and 2 orings. It makes the shocks much smoother. Also many have went to the black shock bladders withlut the sponges.
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Old 12-04-2012, 11:24 AM   #1158
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for those of you who can't find the 44.2 FF blocks anywhere, Tamiya blocks are a direct fit. You just need to use tamiya pivot balls as well.
Im using Tamiya B block, and testing Tamiya C block.
If colour is a issue. Exotek racing makes a black Tamiya blocks.

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What is the pn (or size/material) on the thin spacer?
Has a anyone built emulsion shocks yet? If so, What parts are needed to convert bd5/7 shocks over?
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for those of you who can't find the 44.2 FF blocks anywhere, Tamiya blocks are a direct fit. You just need to use tamiya pivot balls as well.
Im using Tamiya B block, and testing Tamiya C block.
If colour is a issue. Exotek racing makes a black Tamiya blocks.

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And you have to use the yokomo pivot bushing ,if not ,you may have to shims
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Old 12-04-2012, 11:55 AM   #1161
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And you have to use the yokomo pivot bushing ,if not ,you may have to shims
yes tamiya pivot bushing, so yes add 1 mm ( or .75, can't remember) shim.
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Old 12-04-2012, 11:57 AM   #1162
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What is the pn (or size/material) on the thin spacer?
Has a anyone built emulsion shocks yet? If so, What parts are needed to convert bd5/7 shocks over?
Get T-Shox...

You can build them with ZERO!!!! and i mean zero rebound! They work great! Air free without a bladder... not that tricky like emulsion shocks!

You use little springs to adjust your rebound and without a spring you have zero rebound and even a great feel!

https://fbcdn-sphotos-g-a.akamaihd.n...61246873_n.jpg
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Old 12-04-2012, 12:58 PM   #1163
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Yes... I think the car has a sweet spot when you use these settings... All the yoks are setted very similiar!

but i dont like the middle setting of the wheelbase in front (0,5 to 0,5)... The Car has more steering if you go on 1mm in front...

And so with the Ackermann... I like when it turns in immediately so i used 0,5mm ackermann first but then like on the bd5wxi 1mm!

Im playing with different Oils, like MR450 and MR400 from now on... And with the T-Shox...

What roll center shims do you run?

Ive tried 0,5 inside and 1mm outside at the rear and 1mm inside and 1,5mm outside at the front... but went back to the simple settings of 1-1 1-1...

Just playing with droop, camber and the dampers from now on...
I'm currently at 1mm outside and .5 inside front and rear with short links. 3 on front tower 2 on rear tower. My tracks traction isn't very consistent and all I have to change is rear shock position depending on how free I need the car to be. I think the car was faster with 1-1-1-1 for roll centers. Droop makes a darastic difference on this car and I'm running 6.0 and 4.8 at the arms. 5.0,5.2 ride height ae 500 in the shocks with 3x1.1 pistons 2 blue o rings with 30/20 rebound which really makes the car easier to drive. Camber is -1.5/-1.5 or -1.5/-2 depending on how I feel. I'm pretty sure I'm running 0 Ackerman. I could use a touch better turn in and will definitely try the 1mm you suggested. The car is fantastic I just wish I was a more consistent driver. I haven't played with wheel base much, but I intend to today.
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Old 12-04-2012, 01:42 PM   #1164
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Get T-Shox...

You can build them with ZERO!!!! and i mean zero rebound! They work great! Air free without a bladder... not that tricky like emulsion shocks!

You use little springs to adjust your rebound and without a spring you have zero rebound and even a great feel!

https://fbcdn-sphotos-g-a.akamaihd.n...61246873_n.jpg

which T-Shox uses?... normal or short...
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Get T-Shox...

You can build them with ZERO!!!! and i mean zero rebound! They work great! Air free without a bladder... not that tricky like emulsion shocks!

You use little springs to adjust your rebound and without a spring you have zero rebound and even a great feel!

https://fbcdn-sphotos-g-a.akamaihd.n...61246873_n.jpg
Yeah.. They look interesting, but im more interested in the Volker/naoto/"rookie" go fast bits.
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Is there a reason no one runs lighter diff fluid on this car?(700-1000) most people at my track run 700-900 in stock. Mod isn't far off.
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I changed the front wheel base to 1mm back and it is much better! More steering and much smoother.
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Is there a reason no one runs lighter diff fluid on this car?(700-1000) most people at my track run 700-900 in stock. Mod isn't far off.
When i first got the car i run 700 and worked very well at my local club. Our club has now got brand new carpet and grip is higher and more consistent. I was running 1000 but switched to 2000 last night and this made the car more consistent and very quick, 0.25 best to average

I think that the 700 works best on low and inconsistent grip but can catch you out by suddenly over rotating if not careful.
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I changed the front wheel base to 1mm back and it is much better! More steering and much smoother.
Ive been thinking of changing the front wheelbase to try and smooth the car out a little on flowing corners. Might give this a try
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Ive been thinking of changing the front wheelbase to try and smooth the car out a little on flowing corners. Might give this a try
wouldn't shorting the wheel base make the car less stable on turning? I thought making the wheel base longer will smoothen out the car a little?

Has any one tried using the forward most mounting holes for steering rack to change the ackerman to smoothen out the car on flowing corners?
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