8LikesYOKOMO Touring Car BD-7
07-06-2016, 04:31 PM
#7156
without going too radical with modified parts, I have found the following setup as a good starting point for most tarmac tracks
For a big fast nitro track I usually switch to 15 shocks with the longer shock towers (450 oil HPI silvers). But that's the only change to the starting point.
2 things that really help steering 4.5mm hex's and 1.5mm bump steer.
Removing the inner top deck screws helps overall traction and doesn't seem to effect turn in.
I get to have a drive tomorrow so will be testing some more SMJ spring combo's
For a big fast nitro track I usually switch to 15 shocks with the longer shock towers (450 oil HPI silvers). But that's the only change to the starting point.
2 things that really help steering 4.5mm hex's and 1.5mm bump steer.
Removing the inner top deck screws helps overall traction and doesn't seem to effect turn in.
I get to have a drive tomorrow so will be testing some more SMJ spring combo's
07-08-2016, 09:05 PM
#7157
Hi,
I've seen some people put a spacer on the top part of the 2016 shock body to prevent the cap from screwing all the way down and which also gives the shock a polished ring look. Would somebody know which size spacer these are or where I can get them?
I've seen some people put a spacer on the top part of the 2016 shock body to prevent the cap from screwing all the way down and which also gives the shock a polished ring look. Would somebody know which size spacer these are or where I can get them?
Last edited by AL1983; 07-08-2016 at 09:06 PM. Reason: Pic
07-09-2016, 07:09 PM
#7158
Anyone know of a source for pss sleeves/pistons for the 2015/long shocks other than T Works?
07-10-2016, 06:25 AM
#7159
Tech Apprentice
I have picked up a second hand 16 car, had 15 before hand. But I have this hinge pin holders and never gone from the kit ones on the 15. But I have a few which came with the deal. But I don't know if they are for the rear or front, anyone help because I have never used this before. But the manual says 43.5mm but they don't say that on the hinge pin holders
3.9
4.2
4.9
5.7
3.5 on the front on both
6.4 on the rear with 2 in the front on the rear of the car
But trying to under stand what it does to front and rear? But when I ask people at my local track are not helpful and don't have time to explain to me what it does. And my car is not as settled as there's, I know I am not the fastest but being lapped 5 times is starting to get dishearting
3.9
4.2
4.9
5.7
3.5 on the front on both
6.4 on the rear with 2 in the front on the rear of the car
But trying to under stand what it does to front and rear? But when I ask people at my local track are not helpful and don't have time to explain to me what it does. And my car is not as settled as there's, I know I am not the fastest but being lapped 5 times is starting to get dishearting
07-10-2016, 06:42 AM
#7160
I have picked up a second hand 16 car, had 15 before hand. But I have this hinge pin holders and never gone from the kit ones on the 15. But I have a few which came with the deal. But I don't know if they are for the rear or front, anyone help because I have never used this before. But the manual says 43.5mm but they don't say that on the hinge pin holders
3.9
4.2
4.9
5.7
3.5 on the front on both
6.4 on the rear with 2 in the front on the rear of the car
But trying to under stand what it does to front and rear? But when I ask people at my local track are not helpful and don't have time to explain to me what it does. And my car is not as settled as there's, I know I am not the fastest but being lapped 5 times is starting to get dishearting
3.9
4.2
4.9
5.7
3.5 on the front on both
6.4 on the rear with 2 in the front on the rear of the car
But trying to under stand what it does to front and rear? But when I ask people at my local track are not helpful and don't have time to explain to me what it does. And my car is not as settled as there's, I know I am not the fastest but being lapped 5 times is starting to get dishearting
07-10-2016, 11:21 AM
#7161
I have picked up a second hand 16 car, had 15 before hand. But I have this hinge pin holders and never gone from the kit ones on the 15. But I have a few which came with the deal. But I don't know if they are for the rear or front, anyone help because I have never used this before. But the manual says 43.5mm but they don't say that on the hinge pin holders
3.9
4.2
4.9
5.7
3.5 on the front on both
6.4 on the rear with 2 in the front on the rear of the car
But trying to under stand what it does to front and rear? But when I ask people at my local track are not helpful and don't have time to explain to me what it does. And my car is not as settled as there's, I know I am not the fastest but being lapped 5 times is starting to get dishearting
3.9
4.2
4.9
5.7
3.5 on the front on both
6.4 on the rear with 2 in the front on the rear of the car
But trying to under stand what it does to front and rear? But when I ask people at my local track are not helpful and don't have time to explain to me what it does. And my car is not as settled as there's, I know I am not the fastest but being lapped 5 times is starting to get dishearting
Many (if not most) setups I found online use 4.2 on FF and 5.7 on RR instead. (putting 0.5 degrees of "toe out" to the front hinge pins - not the wheels) and reducing rear toe-in from 3.0 to 2.5 degrees.
So basically what the different pieces do, is altering the track width and the toe settings of the car.
07-13-2016, 08:55 PM
#7162
Pulled the suspension blocks out of my 14'
Last edited by Jochim_18; 07-13-2016 at 10:10 PM.
07-13-2016, 08:59 PM
#7163
Raising the roll center will give it less roll, and vice versa....
07-15-2016, 06:17 AM
#7169
Thanks Chris, after I posted I decided to stop being lazy and look back through the thread as I recalled seeing something EvoChick posted a while back, she said:
"I can confirm no issues with the 7.9 rr and 4.9 rf combo
Plenty of belt room with diff in high position"
So I suppose 7.9 minus 4.9 = 3 deg toe?
Evochick, did you ever try out this combo on the track? Any good?
What width does that take the car too?
Cheers.
"I can confirm no issues with the 7.9 rr and 4.9 rf combo
Plenty of belt room with diff in high position"
So I suppose 7.9 minus 4.9 = 3 deg toe?
Evochick, did you ever try out this combo on the track? Any good?
What width does that take the car too?
Cheers.
07-15-2016, 06:38 AM
#7170
Unfortunately, it's not that easy to calculate, no. See here.
That combination should leave you with quite a bit less toe than 3 degrees, since RF changes by 2,9mmm and RR only by 1,5mm (Change would have to be equal on both to keep the kit's 3 degrees)
Not easy to say, since the toe angle changes, but probably something around 2mm overall width.
Question is: why do you want to widen the rear in the first place?
That combination should leave you with quite a bit less toe than 3 degrees, since RF changes by 2,9mmm and RR only by 1,5mm (Change would have to be equal on both to keep the kit's 3 degrees)
Not easy to say, since the toe angle changes, but probably something around 2mm overall width.
Question is: why do you want to widen the rear in the first place?