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Old 05-02-2014, 12:15 PM   #4036
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Regarding the front stabiliser: the front arms on my car don't seem to have holes for the ball stud?

Is it yokomos opinion that the BD7 doesn't need front stabilisers? I say this because hardware is sold separately from the front stabilisers set
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Regarding the front stabiliser: the front arms on my car don't seem to have holes for the ball stud?

Is it yokomos opinion that the BD7 doesn't need front stabilisers? I say this because hardware is sold separately from the front stabilisers set
Front and rear stabilizers are mounted differently to the arms. The full BD-7 comes with both front and rear included, only the cheaper BD-7RS version comes without (more a cost saving issue, than Yokomo's opionion that they wouldn't be needed. Maybe they really aren't needed - but certainly recommended.) So you should probably add both, front and rear, if you want to race the car competetively. At least judging from the graphics in the manual, the arms of the RS should be just as ready for stabilizers as the ones from the non-RS kit, as they look identical).
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Thanks Dirk. I see what you're saying now.. The arms have a little recess that holds a ball stud and a cover that keeps the ball stud.

Rear arms have the same recess as well.. Perhaps something for the future
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Old 05-02-2014, 08:09 PM   #4040
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How does the BD7 2014 compares with the T4 2014, anyone has both?
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I have worked on the T4 quite a bit but I don't own one.

Both are great cars, both high quality and fast.

T4 is better out of the box and has a wider tunning window. I would recommend the T4 for newer racers. Most people would claim the T4 plastics are more durable, not sure I agree.

I like the way the BD7 goes together a little better, small changes have a greater effect which when you are having a good day is awesome. Kit price is similar, but BD7 parts are cheaper. Sadly the kit shocks need upgraded parts to make them reliable. Even with extra rings, black bladders and the thin coller I am not 100% happy with mine.
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How does the BD7 2014 compares with the T4 2014, anyone has both?
I've owned built and raced both cars. Ease of build and ease of everything going together Xray wins hands down. I think Yokomo could have dumped the Philips head screws but not a huge deal. Dif build on the Yokomo was terrible. Sanding and reaming gears on a high end kit should not have to be done and neither should having to by another companies orings to insure it doesn't leak. Yokomo is a great car once you buy all the hop up/required tuning parts. Graphite parts on the Black Series are very brittle. I would recommend the Xray over the Yokomo to a newer racer or somebody that doesn't want to build a car and the have to order a couple hundred dollars of other parts to tune it
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$200 is a bit of an exageration.

BD7 needs about $40-50 extra excluding floating servo mount and DCJs.

Yet to see a car that doesn't need something extra.

Yes you are correct that a high end car in this day and age should not need extra shock o rings, bladders ect. The supplied shocks in every high end touring car should be nothing short of brilliant.

With the upgraded parts the shocks are ok but not as good as TRFs or kyoshos.

A lot of cars need diff gear sanding.

At least the BD7 arms don't need sanding or a shim in the C hub to knuckle like the 418.
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$200 is a bit of an exageration.

BD7 needs about $40-50 extra excluding floating servo mount and DCJs.

Yet to see a car that doesn't need something extra.

Yes you are correct that a high end car in this day and age should not need extra shock o rings, bladders ect. The supplied shocks in every high end touring car should be nothing short of brilliant.

With the upgraded parts the shocks are ok but not as good as TRFs or kyoshos.

A lot of cars need diff gear sanding.

At least the BD7 arms don't need sanding or a shim in the C hub to knuckle like the 418.
Floating servo mount dcjs different suspension mounts for front and rear aluminum diff cams. Ok 200 might be high but not way too high. And I've never sanded an Xray dif other than where it cut it off the parts tree
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No need for aluminium diff cams.

Xray needs extra blocks or at least split blocks and DCJs.

The advantages I see with the xray, aluminium turnbuckles and floating servo mount with the kit. Shocks appear to be better no leakage issues and feel nice and smooth.

But xray parts are more expensive.

Either way both are great cars.
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I have worked on the T4 quite a bit but I don't own one.

Both are great cars, both high quality and fast.

T4 is better out of the box and has a wider tunning window. I would recommend the T4 for newer racers. Most people would claim the T4 plastics are more durable, not sure I agree.

I like the way the BD7 goes together a little better, small changes have a greater effect which when you are having a good day is awesome. Kit price is similar, but BD7 parts are cheaper. Sadly the kit shocks need upgraded parts to make them reliable. Even with extra rings, black bladders and the thin coller I am not 100% happy with mine.
Thanks for the helpful info guys.
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No need for aluminium diff cams.

Xray needs extra blocks or at least split blocks and DCJs.

The advantages I see with the xray, aluminium turnbuckles and floating servo mount with the kit. Shocks appear to be better no leakage issues and feel nice and smooth.

But xray parts are more expensive.

Either way both are great cars.
I agree both cars are great. Just wasn't a fan of the Yokomo.
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I've owned built and raced both cars. Ease of build and ease of everything going together Xray wins hands down. I think Yokomo could have dumped the Philips head screws but not a huge deal. Dif build on the Yokomo was terrible. Sanding and reaming gears on a high end kit should not have to be done and neither should having to by another companies orings to insure it doesn't leak. Yokomo is a great car once you buy all the hop up/required tuning parts. Graphite parts on the Black Series are very brittle. I would recommend the Xray over the Yokomo to a newer racer or somebody that doesn't want to build a car and the have to order a couple hundred dollars of other parts to tune it
New diff now comes with orange o-rings and hex screws for the diff, I never had any issues with the standard o-rings. The new diff seems even tighter with the new o-rings in though, even with sanding them down. Has anybody else had any experience with the new diff, I assume as this is a going change to the car that new kits will change over as well?
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Almost done assembling my car. It appears to me that the front track is wider than the rear? (I'm using kit supplied suspension mounts)
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