Hot Bodies Cyclone
02-22-2009, 02:50 PM
i mite re-build it later on when i get better electronics i got it back to normal again. my problem was that the belt was taking more spin to my right wheel then the left and when i accelerate it goes left so yer i think locktite for now
and as for the cvds im curious is the WC and the TC the same things or completly different and if the WC is a different car please send me the link thankz
and as for the cvds im curious is the WC and the TC the same things or completly different and if the WC is a different car please send me the link thankz
The cvd and universal assemblies are sorta opposites of one another. See picture below.
-The WCE CVD's use the MIP design. The driveshaft captures (goes around) the axle assembly. This does offer more efficiency at extreme turning angles. Not a huge difference.
-The TC comes with universals. The axle assembly captures the driveshaft.
To this date all Cyclones share the same basic geometry. Each new version just adds new tuning features that are compatible with ALL Cyclones. No major changes have been made in 4 years. The HB Team got the design right to begin with way back in 2005. Well... all except for the diff design.
It took a few years to address that issue.
02-22-2009, 11:44 PM
i mite re-build it later on when i get better electronics i got it back to normal again. my problem was that the belt was taking more spin to my right wheel then the left and when i accelerate it goes left so yer i think locktite for now
and as for the cvds im curious is the WC and the TC the same things or completly different and if the WC is a different car please send me the link thankz
and as for the cvds im curious is the WC and the TC the same things or completly different and if the WC is a different car please send me the link thankz
02-22-2009, 11:58 PM
When you rebuild the diff check all bearings. Including the 5x10's in the hubs and the 10x15's in the bulkheads. Make sure that they spin freely and aren't binding. Bad bearings can cause uneven power delivery and excess wear on the drivetrain.
The cvd and universal assemblies are sorta opposites of one another. See picture below.
-The WCE CVD's use the MIP design. The driveshaft captures (goes around) the axle assembly. This does offer more efficiency at extreme turning angles. Not a huge difference.
-The TC comes with universals. The axle assembly captures the driveshaft.
To this date all Cyclones share the same basic geometry. Each new version just adds new tuning features that are compatible with ALL Cyclones. No major changes have been made in 4 years. The HB Team got the design right to begin with way back in 2005. Well... all except for the diff design. It took a few years to address that issue.
The cvd and universal assemblies are sorta opposites of one another. See picture below.
-The WCE CVD's use the MIP design. The driveshaft captures (goes around) the axle assembly. This does offer more efficiency at extreme turning angles. Not a huge difference.
-The TC comes with universals. The axle assembly captures the driveshaft.
To this date all Cyclones share the same basic geometry. Each new version just adds new tuning features that are compatible with ALL Cyclones. No major changes have been made in 4 years. The HB Team got the design right to begin with way back in 2005. Well... all except for the diff design.
It took a few years to address that issue.
02-23-2009, 01:22 AM
02-23-2009, 06:24 AM
02-23-2009, 07:59 AM
02-23-2009, 08:35 AM
But talk about "LUXURY"
02-23-2009, 11:25 AM
Does anyone have the setup used at the 2008 istc worlds? I know they were running a softer setup with blues in the back but can't seem to find it. Wanted to give it a try.
02-23-2009, 01:38 PM
Just got round to rebuilding my cyclone - bought it second hand a few months back. I've been trying to return it to factory spec until I came across something really odd in the manual. The previous owner had a spool arangement on the spur gear shaft, but when built to the manual, there is a one way bearing. I built it as the manual but I couldn't understand why the bearing was rotating the wrong way. But then I looked at the exploded diagram at the back, which shows the spur the other way!
02-23-2009, 08:45 PM
I think the difference you are seeing is due to manufacturing tolerances most likely with the 2 pics you shared.
02-23-2009, 10:55 PM
When you rebuild the diff check all bearings. Including the 5x10's in the hubs and the 10x15's in the bulkheads. Make sure that they spin freely and aren't binding. Bad bearings can cause uneven power delivery and excess wear on the drivetrain.
The cvd and universal assemblies are sorta opposites of one another. See picture below.
-The WCE CVD's use the MIP design. The driveshaft captures (goes around) the axle assembly. This does offer more efficiency at extreme turning angles. Not a huge difference.
-The TC comes with universals. The axle assembly captures the driveshaft.
To this date all Cyclones share the same basic geometry. Each new version just adds new tuning features that are compatible with ALL Cyclones. No major changes have been made in 4 years. The HB Team got the design right to begin with way back in 2005. Well... all except for the diff design. It took a few years to address that issue.
The cvd and universal assemblies are sorta opposites of one another. See picture below.
-The WCE CVD's use the MIP design. The driveshaft captures (goes around) the axle assembly. This does offer more efficiency at extreme turning angles. Not a huge difference.
-The TC comes with universals. The axle assembly captures the driveshaft.
To this date all Cyclones share the same basic geometry. Each new version just adds new tuning features that are compatible with ALL Cyclones. No major changes have been made in 4 years. The HB Team got the design right to begin with way back in 2005. Well... all except for the diff design.
It took a few years to address that issue.
so cvds are at the top of my to get list nowthankz for that
02-24-2009, 08:37 AM
That's odd that you keep losing pins. Are they coming out right after an impact? Is it the same universal that loses a pin or is it random? Did you loctite the set screws?
02-24-2009, 09:11 AM
I agree... that is really odd. Are you using a good quality 1.5mm driver to tighten down the set screws, or a simple L type allen wrench? Try to get a hold of a quality allen driver where you can tighten the setscrew down really well without the fear of stripping the screw out.
Also, when you are building your universals, its very important to make sure the threads in the couple stay EXTREMELY clean. Any grease/oil that is in there will prevent the thread lock from ahearing the screw and coupler together, allowing it to back out fairly easily.
One last tip... If you have a dremel or a small file you can griind a flat spot on the pin itself for the setscrew to tighten onto. This allows the setscrew to have a little more grip on the pin, and also if the setscrew backs otu a tiny bit, the edges of the flatspot could possibly help retain the pin as well.
Give those a shot and see how that goes. I personally didn't see a big enough performance difference with the MIP CVD's over the stock universals. The stock universals have been great so far and I plan to continue to use them.
-Korey
Also, when you are building your universals, its very important to make sure the threads in the couple stay EXTREMELY clean. Any grease/oil that is in there will prevent the thread lock from ahearing the screw and coupler together, allowing it to back out fairly easily.
One last tip... If you have a dremel or a small file you can griind a flat spot on the pin itself for the setscrew to tighten onto. This allows the setscrew to have a little more grip on the pin, and also if the setscrew backs otu a tiny bit, the edges of the flatspot could possibly help retain the pin as well.
Give those a shot and see how that goes. I personally didn't see a big enough performance difference with the MIP CVD's over the stock universals. The stock universals have been great so far and I plan to continue to use them.
-Korey
02-24-2009, 09:13 AM
Not only that, but the amount of added rotating mass. I prefer (in rc terms) universals to "cvds" because they seem to last longer, and in offroad, do not collect dirt and grime to wear down the components.
I think the difference you are seeing is due to manufacturing tolerances most likely with the 2 pics you shared.
I think the difference you are seeing is due to manufacturing tolerances most likely with the 2 pics you shared.
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02-24-2009, 09:15 AM
