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Old 08-17-2008, 06:01 AM   #13486
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Korey and Guys

can you do me a favour and measure on a setup station how many degrees total steering travel on each lock you run on the cyclone.
I have a feeling that why my car pulls rear end round due to running to much lock.
Each radio is different. Just make sure that at full lock left or right, that the steering knuckle is about 1mm from touching the Caster block. Most of the time each side will have a bit different EPA value, so set each side accordingly.

About the rear end sliding around....when is it doing it: corner entry, corner exit, mid corner?

What surface are you running, and what set-up do you have?
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Old 08-17-2008, 06:21 AM   #13487
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As you acclerate out of the corner.
Its carpet but permanent track and bumpy
we run sorex 32 s
its the normal all rnd carpet setup as posted by Stew noble.
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Old 08-17-2008, 08:10 AM   #13488
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ok mail to me !
but FF &FR shim more will slower in second turn !
rolling more so need more time to return to std for next turn rolling .
thats my set up HI , i have a mazda RX8 I have sorex 28R tyre and my probleme is that when i corner i have to break hard to be able to corner without drifting , so it means that i loose time . What i would like to do is to corner faster without drifting but as i said i cant corner faster without drifting.
OK my set up is :


108 spur and 35 pinion
2mm spacer between the upper bulkhead and the inner pivot for front
and 2mm between upper bulkhead and inner pivot for rear
5mm front ride height
5.5mm rear ride height
4mm before the tyre lift from the ground (droop i think)for front
3mm before the tyre lift from the ground (droop i think) for rear
standart suspension 3 holes ,1.1mm each ,40w oil standart spring silver rear gold front
camber 1.5 all around
castor 4
wheelbase is standart
FF 1.5 , FR 2
RF 1.5 , RR 1.5
0.75toe angle front
and standart toe angle rear

4mm ackermann
and i think thats it

and my probleme is that :when i enter the corner , i have to break quite hard to turn without the rear end spinning so it means i loose time . So what i would like to do is to corner faster without the rear end spinning .
thank in advance
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Old 08-17-2008, 08:37 AM   #13489
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anyone know who has the new kit in stock?
George I don't think you can handle this car
But it won't be in stock till Sept.
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Old 08-17-2008, 08:49 AM   #13490
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Old 08-17-2008, 11:48 AM   #13491
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Korey and Guys

can you do me a favour and measure on a setup station how many degrees total steering travel on each lock you run on the cyclone.
I have a feeling that why my car pulls rear end round due to running to much lock.

I'm one of those guys that just sets the steering up to lock, but never actually turn the wheel all the way. So for you I'd do what yyhayyim said to do. That should be a good overall starting point.

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Old 08-17-2008, 12:21 PM   #13492
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At the track now and have been chasing problems with my car all day. The problem that I am having now is at any large amount of steering angle the steering freaks out like the cvd's are binding in the spool or something. I am running a 3racing spool ground out to fit the wce cvds
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Old 08-17-2008, 02:25 PM   #13493
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Some time ago on this thread there was a link to a really good cyclone gear chart for 16t and 18t pulleys. Ive tried to find it but cant, can some one put a link back up. Thanks
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Old 08-17-2008, 02:28 PM   #13494
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Right guys I need some help. Im going to be running an LRP 13.5 brushless motor in my cyclone for the 1st time. I need to know what spur gear sizes I will need and what pinion sizes as well. I have the andy moor wce with the 16t pulleys. Im told to gear this motor around 4.0 on a large asphalt track. Any other advise ref 13,5 would be use full
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Old 08-17-2008, 02:40 PM   #13495
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You pretty much got it. 4.0 is close to what I use with the lrp 13.5. I used a 91 tooth spur with pinions around mid 50's.
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Oh and gearchart.com is good for gearing. They only have the 16 tooth pulleys I think though.
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Old 08-17-2008, 02:43 PM   #13497
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Right guys I need some help. Im going to be running an LRP 13.5 brushless motor in my cyclone for the 1st time. I need to know what spur gear sizes I will need and what pinion sizes as well. I have the andy moor wce with the 16t pulleys. Im told to gear this motor around 4.0 on a large asphalt track. Any other advise ref 13,5 would be use full
4.0 seems a bit excessive for a fdr on a 13.5 may want to stick around the 4.2 range at the lowest. I am running a 92 spur and between a 50-53 pinion depending on which track I am at
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4.0 seems a bit excessive for a fdr on a 13.5 may want to stick around the 4.2 range at the lowest. I am running a 92 spur and between a 50-53 pinion depending on which track I am at
I agree, But my lrp motor really needed to be geared abnormally high.
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thats my set up HI , i have a mazda RX8 I have sorex 28R tyre and my probleme is that when i corner i have to break hard to be able to corner without drifting , so it means that i loose time . What i would like to do is to corner faster without drifting but as i said i cant corner faster without drifting.
OK my set up is :


108 spur and 35 pinion
2mm spacer between the upper bulkhead and the inner pivot for front
and 2mm between upper bulkhead and inner pivot for rear
5mm front ride height
5.5mm rear ride height
4mm before the tyre lift from the ground (droop i think)for front
3mm before the tyre lift from the ground (droop i think) for rear
standart suspension 3 holes ,1.1mm each ,40w oil standart spring silver rear gold front
camber 1.5 all around
castor 4
wheelbase is standart
FF 1.5 , FR 2
RF 1.5 , RR 1.5
0.75toe angle front
and standart toe angle rear

4mm ackermann
and i think thats it

and my probleme is that :when i enter the corner , i have to break quite hard to turn without the rear end spinning so it means i loose time . So what i would like to do is to corner faster without the rear end spinning .
thank in advance
can you tell me in where use this setup carpet ?
use setup sheet more detail e-mail to me ok ?

& what is your drive style ( on power steering or off power steering )?

Thanks !
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Right guys I need some help. Im going to be running an LRP 13.5 brushless motor in my cyclone for the 1st time. I need to know what spur gear sizes I will need and what pinion sizes as well. I have the andy moor wce with the 16t pulleys. Im told to gear this motor around 4.0 on a large asphalt track. Any other advise ref 13,5 would be use full

I run a novak 13.5 and gear it 88/46. I run the lrptc speedo and the motor comes off around 140 ish. I run on a long narrow track that has a very long straight and a tight infield. Next week I'm going with an 47t pinion. I also run lipos.
In general let temperature be your guide. 160-170 being the tops. (IMO)
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