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Old 08-12-2008, 06:55 AM   #13396
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thanks Korey for the tips...

THE TC didnt come with carbon spur gear plate...
don't need because had 4 screw !
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Old 08-12-2008, 07:14 AM   #13397
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Why do you need 2 degree camber and 75% shock rebound on high grip Track?
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Old 08-12-2008, 09:08 AM   #13398
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Here are some pics of my TC and how I mounted the Orion 3600 lipo.
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Old 08-12-2008, 09:19 AM   #13399
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Why do you need 2 degree camber and 75% shock rebound on high grip Track?
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The Sorex/Speedmind premounts just need more camber to wear even since they have so much airgap. 75% remound is just where I start all the time. I tend to like a lot of rebound anyway... it makes the car come back to center faster for me.

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Old 08-12-2008, 09:29 AM   #13400
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The Sorex/Speedmind premounts just need more camber to wear even since they have so much airgap. 75% remound is just where I start all the time. I tend to like a lot of rebound anyway... it makes the car come back to center faster for me.

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You mentioning about the 2 degree camber that you said use on your set up I tried Friday, when I came to use it on Sunday, I notice it was wearing the inside half of the tire only (Sorex 32s), so stood them up to 1.5mm but it still wasn't wearing right across the tire, any suggestions please.
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Old 08-12-2008, 09:39 AM   #13401
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You mentioning about the 2 degree camber that you said use on your set up I tried Friday, when I came to use it on Sunday, I notice it was wearing the inside half of the tire only (Sorex 32s), so stood them up to 1.5mm but it still wasn't wearing right across the tire, any suggestions please.
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Camber should always be set to get the proper wear/contact patch to the track. 2 may have worked for him at his track and track design but it doesn't seem like it's working for you. Another thing could be that you might be running too thin of an insert. I have seen that cause a tire to wear on the inner portion of the tire with increased camber.
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Old 08-12-2008, 09:44 AM   #13402
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Just run whatever camber you have to. My track is very high grip and veeerry tight. So we're throwing the car around a lot more than most people would. So somethings might be different than what most other people would run on a typical track.

If you are still having problems with the tires wearing odd, you can also try taking shims out from under the camber links. That will increase negative camber as the supension compresses. This will generally create more grip too, so you will have to make other changes around the car to keep it from becoming too stuck.

If you have a lot of airgap in your tires the really weird wear on the inside of the tire can be hard to avoid. My tires still wear a little funny, but the car drive better with 2 deg of camber in my conditions.

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Camber should always be set to get the proper wear/contact patch to the track. 2 may have worked for him at his track and track design but it doesn't seem like it's working for you. Another thing could be that you might be running too thin of an insert. I have seen that cause a tire to wear on the inner portion of the tire with increased camber.
Cheers for your input STLNLST, but the tires are pre-mounts, as that is what we will be using in the KO meeting in a couple of weeks in the UK, any suggestions to get even wear on the setup, as I was very pleased with the way the car handled, but think it would be even better if I could get more tire on the track suface.
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Just run whatever camber you have to. My track is very high grip and veeerry tight. So we're throwing the car around a lot more than most people would. So somethings might be different than what most other people would run on a typical track.

If you are still having problems with the tires wearing odd, you can also try taking shims out from under the camber links. That will increase negative camber as the supension compresses. This will generally create more grip too, so you will have to make other changes around the car to keep it from becoming too stuck.

If you have a lot of airgap in your tires the really weird wear on the inside of the tire can be hard to avoid. My tires still wear a little funny, but the car drive better with 2 deg of camber in my conditions.

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Its funny you should mention that your track has a lot of grip and is tight, as we use the Sweep 32s at our club on Prima GT and the wear is right across the tire, so as you say, the tighter the track the harder you are working those tires.
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Cheers for your input STLNLST, but the tires are pre-mounts, as that is what we will be using in the KO meeting in a couple of weeks in the UK, any suggestions to get even wear on the setup, as I was very pleased with the way the car handled, but think it would be even better if I could get more tire on the track suface.
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I would suggest going to 1 degree of camber then but I wouldn't go below that. After that I would re-evaluate a couple of things. Look to see if the contact patch is wearing even or is it still not coming into contact with the racing surface? If the wear is even then maybe you have to just live with the inner portion of the tire wearing like that. I can't remeber you saying if it was front or rears but 95% of the time it's the front showing the excessive wear. Is this the case??? You will be dialed by the time the KO race comes around
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I would suggest going to 1 degree of camber then but I wouldn't go below that. After that I would re-evaluate a couple of things. Look to see if the contact patch is wearing even or is it still not coming into contact with the racing surface? If the wear is even then maybe you have to just live with the inner portion of the tire wearing like that. I can't remeber you saying if it was front or rears but 95% of the time it's the front showing the excessive wear. Is this the case??? You will be dialed by the time the KO race comes around
Yea I was thinking of going to 1 degree of camber, but wouldn't go any further. The wear is on the inside to just over half way across the tire, I think a little more camber change would do the trick
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Yea I was thinking of going to 1 degree of camber, but wouldn't go any further. The wear is on the inside to just over half way across the tire, I think a little more camber change would do the trick
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Also....how are you checking camber? I use to do it the lazy way with the RPM camber gauge against the tire's but if the rims are slightly tweaked then you may be putting more than 2 degrees of camber on the car. I used the Hdy gauges and then put my tire's back on a looked to see how off they looked. I was amazed at what I saw. A warped rim, terrible glue job can all lead to different readings if a gauges is used while the tire's are still on. Just throwing some ideas your way. You may not have these issues but it is something to look out for.
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Also....how are you checking camber? I use to do it the lazy way with the RPM camber gauge against the tire's but if the rims are slightly tweaked then you may be putting more than 2 degrees of camber on the car. I used the Hdy gauges and then put my tire's back on a looked to see how off they looked. I was amazed at what I saw. A warped rim, terrible glue job can all lead to different readings if a gauges is used while the tire's are still on. Just throwing some ideas your way. You may not have these issues but it is something to look out for.
I too use the Hudy gauges, and know where your coming from with regards to using a RPM gauge, but to be fair, this is how I brought the car down to 1.5 by using a RPM gauge, im lazy too sometimes
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Old 08-12-2008, 11:22 AM   #13409
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I too use the Hudy gauges, and know where your coming from with regards to using a RPM gauge, but to be fair, this is how I brought the car down to 1.5 by using a RPM gauge, im lazy too sometimes
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Maybe we should both just get up right now and go throw the RPM gauge in the trash.....LOL Oh wait......I guess I still need it for off road
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Maybe we should both just get up right now and go throw the RPM gauge in the trash.....LOL Oh wait......I guess I still need it for off road
funny thing is, a guy asked me to use it Friday night, as he has been trying to buy 1 for ages, maybe I should just it sell to him for a beer
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