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Old 08-11-2008, 12:39 PM   #13381
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Can someone with a TC please measure the distance from the bottom of the top deck to the top of the chassis? Trying to figure out how LIPO is gonna fit in the car.

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The Orion 3800 30c's fit fine, just remove about 1mm to 1.5mm o material from the centre brace.
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Old 08-11-2008, 12:50 PM   #13382
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I can post my current setup for a high traction indoor track. The kit setup is pretty good for the most part too.

Front:
Spring: HPI Pro 4 Pink
Oil: AE 45wt
Piston: tamiya 3 hole
Rebound: 75% with the foam
Shock position: #2 on the new suspension arm, #3 on the tower
Swaybar: 1.4mm
Caster: 4 deg
Camber: 2 deg
Upper Link: long, with 3mm under the inner pivot
Arm sweep/toe block: 2.0 deg
Shims under suspension blocks: FF=1.0 FR=1.0mm
Droop: 6mm off a droop gauge
Ackerman: 4mm on the center arm and position #2 on the steering knuckle
Front Drive: Spool

Rear:
Spring: HPI Pro 4 Silver
Oil: AE 40wt
Piston: Tamiya 3 holes
Rebound: 75% with the foam
Shock Position: #2 on the new suspension arm, and #4 on the tower
Swaybar: 1.2mm
Camber: 2 deg
Upper Link: long on the bulkhead, inner position on the rear hub, 1.5mm under the inner pivot
Rear Toe: 2.0 deg
Shims under suspension blocks: RF= 1.5mm RR= 1.5mm
Droop: 6mm off gauge

Wheelbase: stock on everything
Body: Protoform Mazdaspeed 6
Tires: Speedmind/Sorex 36R premounts
Hi Korey
I tried your setup at my club on Friday, and it was a little loose at first until the first round had finished (4 heats, 22 racers) so I brought the droop to 5mm all round, I have never had sooooooooo much grip from this car, and as the night went on, I brought the droop back to 6mm but was still far to grippy as the rubber was laid, btw, i didn't put a 2 degree bar on the rear as I didn't have one, so put a 2.5 on. What would of been your suggestion to loosen the car up please

I tried the setup at my out-door track, and again had a great amount of grip with 5mm droop on the rear and front, but the initial turn in was catching me out a little, maybe I could have slow the servo down a little from my hand-set, but went to a 1.5 bar on the front and put 5.5 of droop on the front, again what would you have done please.
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Old 08-11-2008, 02:23 PM   #13383
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gave the wrong info.....my bad. Read the post wrong.

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Old 08-11-2008, 02:48 PM   #13384
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Could someone please post up Hara's Reedy winning setup and what changes he made to the TC as far as parts.

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Old 08-11-2008, 03:11 PM   #13385
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TheCoolCanFanMan- So It sounds like the car worked good for a while, but then became too stuck overall as the night went on. The 2.5deg rear toe will make the rear end stick more overall, especially mid-exit. So... the 2 deg rear toe probably would have helped out a little bit with letting the car roll through the corners a little better. You could also try just standing up the shocks a little bit, or run thicker swaybars to help free it up overall.

Now to smooth out initial turn in, I would try a little bit less front camber. Also try a normal Protoform Mazda 6, rather than a Protoform Mazdaspeed 6. The normal mazda 6 is muuuch smoother overall than the Mazdaspeed 6. I just like a lot of steering . You can also try adding a little more shims under the front suspension blocks. Go up to 1.5mm like STLNLST said, and maybe even try 1.0mm FF, and 1.5mm FR to give the front end a little antidive. It should make the car a little smoother on entry, and give more on power steering comming out of a corner.

Vazzo- http://www.hpiracing.co.jp/contents/...ra080525TC.pdf

Thats Hara's reedy setup. You should keep in mind that the condiditons at the reedy race were pretty unique. No traction compound allowed for the Invite guys like him, and the Speedmind/sorex premounts tend to make the car push a bit. It should be a good starting point for a typical outdoor asphalt track though.

The only things that I saw that werent stock on his car were servo mounts, aluminum shock pivots, and aluminum rear outdrives. The intent was to run mostly everything stock, because the car is awesome in it's stock form. Other things he had on his car were just different springs, pistons, and swaybars for tuning.

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Old 08-11-2008, 03:33 PM   #13386
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Vazzo- http://www.hpiracing.co.jp/contents/...ra080525TC.pdf

Thats Hara's reedy setup. You should keep in mind that the condiditons at the reedy race were pretty unique. No traction compound allowed for the Invite guys like him, and the Speedmind/sorex premounts tend to make the car push a bit. It should be a good starting point for a typical outdoor asphalt track though.

The only things that I saw that werent stock on his car were servo mounts, aluminum shock pivots, and aluminum rear outdrives. The intent was to run mostly everything stock, because the car is awesome in it's stock form. Other things he had on his car were just different springs, pistons, and swaybars for tuning.

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Also....

- Cut rear deck for more traction.
- Version 3 spool, with POM outdrives and alu sleeves.
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- Cut rear deck for more traction.
- Version 3 spool, with POM outdrives and alu sleeves.
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Old 08-11-2008, 05:16 PM   #13388
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Thanks for the info guys, is the V3 spool the one that comes with the stock kit ie front one way and spool all in one? Can someone please explain the cutting of the rear deck in detail as I dont understand sorry.

RCMarket can you please give me the part numbers for Version 3 spool, with POM outdrives and alu sleeves.

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Old 08-11-2008, 08:24 PM   #13389
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Korey... as for your setup, a couple things i didnt see.

1. front and rear arm spacing.
2. rear hub spacing
3. what motor
4. final drive ratio

36R's???? WTF, we thought we had high bite running up to 32R's....

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Old 08-11-2008, 11:31 PM   #13390
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Oh... I thought the arm spacing was pretty much stock. I dont have the car in front of me, but I do remember I have the front wheelbase a little shorter than the stock setting.

I have the thick spacer in front of it, and the thing one behind it. As far as the rear I have the thick spacer in front and the thin in the back. The rear hub is the same way as the rear arm. So the rear end is stock as far as I know.

Yea, we have a lot of grip at my track. 32's wear out in about a run, plus they have a very narrow temp range. It's bumpy too, so it can throw me for a loop every now and then when it comes to setup.

As far as motor... I've been running a little bit of everything. Not so much mod right now, but mainly 10.5 and 13.5. Gearing depends so much on the track and motor battery combo, so I'm not going to get into that. I am running the 18T center pulleys that give a 2.166 internal ratio since they came stock with the TC kit.

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- Cut rear deck for more traction.
anybody have a pic of this?
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thanks Korey for the tips...

THE TC didnt come with carbon spur gear plate...
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Thanks for the info guys, is the V3 spool the one that comes with the stock kit ie front one way and spool all in one? Can someone please explain the cutting of the rear deck in detail as I dont understand sorry.

RCMarket can you please give me the part numbers for Version 3 spool, with POM outdrives and alu sleeves.

Cheers
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Ver.3 spool
http://rcmarket.com.hk/product_info....roducts_id=218

POM
http://rcmarket.com.hk/product_info....oducts_id=4063

Steel Cup
http://rcmarket.com.hk/product_info....roducts_id=219

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