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Old 06-11-2008, 02:34 PM   #12631
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it's Associated TC3 or use Pro 4 ,
because this gear diff smaller , so need use 46mm drive shaft,
gear diff can more off power turn & in hair pin ...
ball diff had lose some power ,
don't need keep rebuild
what about weight?
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Old 06-11-2008, 04:58 PM   #12632
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it's Associated TC3 or use Pro 4 ,
because this gear diff smaller , so need use 46mm drive shaft,
gear diff can more off power turn & in hair pin ...
ball diff had lose some power ,
don't need keep rebuild
Sorry so is that:
S400 Gear Diff
Pro 4 or TC 3 Uni's/CVDs
HB 39T pulley (i assume thats the one-way version not the ball diff pulley?)

Also which screw set do you use, i tried your 3 racing ones but i dont like them as my hex driver does not fit them well.
I didnt see any purple cyclone screw sets on your wesbite.

Thanks....
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Old 06-11-2008, 10:02 PM   #12634
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Any one got any issues with the build of the TC, just asking, as I have a few issues with certain bits.
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What kinds of issues? Anything major?
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Old 06-12-2008, 12:17 AM   #12635
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what about weight?
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Old 06-12-2008, 12:19 AM   #12636
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Sorry so is that:
S400 Gear Diff
Pro 4 or TC 3 Uni's/CVDs
HB 39T pulley (i assume thats the one-way version not the ball diff pulley?)

Also which screw set do you use, i tried your 3 racing ones but i dont like them as my hex driver does not fit them well.
I didnt see any purple cyclone screw sets on your wesbite.

Thanks....
Sorry isn't S400 gear diff !
is very old car diff !

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Old 06-12-2008, 01:57 AM   #12637
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What kinds of issues? Anything major?
Not so much as issues when it comes to building the car, but the quality of parts compared to the WCE version.

Heres my list

1) Plastic main bearing carriers, instead of the alloy purple ones you get with the WCE, to me the parts seem cheap, and could possibly distort with the heat thats generated from the bearings, jmo

2) Ariel mount is plastic (purple alloy in the WCE version)

3) Plastic servo mounts (purple alloy in the WCE version) could brake in a crash.

4) Plastic shock adjusters,(purple alloy in the WCE version) which move far to easy for my liking, and therefore can get accidentally spun round without noticing, and will upset the cars handling.

4a) Plastic shock retainers (purple alloy in the WCE version)

5) Plastic shock mounts (purple alloy in the WCE version) these are gona wear easier.

6) GRP rear deck ( why couldn't this been CF like the rest of the car)

7) Front bumper brace (this could of been made from CF to)

8) The turn buckles are black, not to fussed on this one, but not to sure of the strength of them, are they made from the same material as the WCE ones?

It would of been nice to have had all of the above as per WCE, so if someone could enlighten me to why this car has these plastic parts instead of the purple alloy parts, as this is supposed to be a high end car, and at $449 retail (I think) it should of come with the alloy parts

I do like the new rear diff though, other than the way you have to adjust it, but I might have a way round this (watch this space)
The multi diff at the front is also a nice touch, saves all the hassle of changing from one type of front drive to another.
I also like the drive-shaft make up, as the old ones seem to wear easy, even though I have a tool whereas you can drill new holes in the drive-shaft cups (called a Drill-Shaft-Tool, to view this, go to www.coolcanfan.com) are these drive-shafts the same as the ones used in the S, Cyclone?

Hope this is not to much negativity, but just like to know why the TC has these parts.
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8) The turn buckles are black, not to fussed on this one, but not to sure of the strength of them, are they made from the same material as the WCE ones?
iirc they're made of steel
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The gear diff is from an old nitro rs4 pro
i have one too but its v heavy tbh
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The TC has an internal ratio of 2.167 compared to the previous 2.4375.

Since we can still achieve the same final ratio by different combination of pinion/spur, wonder how the internal ratio will affect the car's handling and acceleration?

Will the affect be more obvious in mod compared to stock racing?
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The gear diff is from an old nitro rs4 pro
i have one too but its v heavy tbh
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3) Plastic servo mounts (purple alloy in the WCE version) could brake in a crash.
Is that plastic or carbon graphite? The carbon graphite servo mounts are pretty tough i reckon the aluminium is just as likely to break, but the aluminium ones are soooo much easier to screw together.

4a) Plastic shock retainers (purple alloy in the WCE version)
If you are into miniscule grams i think they may be slightly lighter if its any consolation

5) Plastic shock mounts (purple alloy in the WCE version) these are gona wear easier.
I dont think they wear much but you have to watch out that you dont overtighten the nylon lock nuts or you squash them.


6) GRP rear deck ( why couldn't this been CF like the rest of the car)
Its a performance option, more flex....

7) Front bumper brace (this could of been made from CF to)
I actually hate the CF brace as it breaks pretty easy if you are prone to crashing (oops i guess that gives away my driving ability).

This kit is not intended to be a fully optioned kit which is why it doesnt have as much bling as the more expensive WCE.


Personally i dont have any problem with adjusting the diff, if you put an allen key in at a slight angle it should grip the slot in the screw. I think though they stuffed up slightly, as i assume the notch in the out drive end should line up with the screw.

Someone might want to try putting an extra thrust washer in on the end so the screw sticks out a little more.
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Old 06-12-2008, 11:00 AM   #12643
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The Cyclone WCE was created as a replica to celebrate Andy's win at the World's (...hence all out aluminum parts etc)

The Cyclone TC is the next generation in the Cyclone line (... and actually the street price is less than the WCE). The TC has many functional improvements built in to it, with less bling of the full optioned WCE replica model.

In regards to the FRP rear deck, this is actually the choice of the team drivers and it is a purely performance oriented pick.

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What happened to 1, 2, and 4, do you not have any comments on these parts


3) Plastic servo mounts (purple alloy in the WCE version) could brake in a crash.
Is that plastic or carbon graphite? The carbon graphite servo mounts are pretty tough i reckon the aluminium is just as likely to break, but the aluminium ones are soooo much easier to screw together.
Not sure if there plastic or carbon graphite version tbh, but do much prefer the purple ones

4a) Plastic shock retainers (purple alloy in the WCE version)
If you are into miniscule grams i think they may be slightly lighter if its any consolation.
Not a weight issue with me tbh, just think they hold the spring in place better

5) Plastic shock mounts (purple alloy in the WCE version) these are gona wear easier.
I don't think they wear much but you have to watch out that you don't overtighten the nylon lock nuts or you squash them.
When you put the plastic shock mounts on the top and bottom there seems to be a lot of black band forth, on the purple ones you don't get this.


6) GRP rear deck ( why couldn't this been CF like the rest of the car)
Its a performance option, more flex....
Thanks, didn't know this

7) Front bumper brace (this could of been made from CF to)
I actually hate the CF brace as it breaks pretty easy if you are prone to crashing (oops i guess that gives away my driving ability).
Crashing is not an option, its part of the plan

This kit is not intended to be a fully optioned kit which is why it doesnt have as much bling as the more expensive WCE.
Then why is it as expensive as the WCE


Personally i dont have any problem with adjusting the diff, if you put an allen key in at a slight angle it should grip the slot in the screw. I think though they stuffed up slightly, as i assume the notch in the out drive end should line up with the screw.

Someone might want to try putting an extra thrust washer in on the end so the screw sticks out a little more.
Thats what I was going to try

Cheers for you input though. any one else care to step in on the above
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Plastic servo mounts is a dumb idea IMO

http://www.hpiracing.com/news/2008052701/

If you look at Hara's car, he ran alu mounts, but most of the other parts you asked about he ran. And won REEDY.

But I have to agree, I like the cool purple alu parts alot more then the plastic parts Maybe theres a WCE edition on its way?
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