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Old 04-29-2008, 09:39 AM   #12136
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Alright I guess that makes more sense! So over time the mod motors bend/flex the suspension parts/ball cups? Why not replace those parts instead of replacing the entire kit?
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Old 04-29-2008, 09:59 AM   #12137
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because he can
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Old 04-29-2008, 10:00 AM   #12138
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When you get free kits why would you take the risk, those guys know how to build an immaculate car from scratch.

Even at club level i know a mod driver who rebuilds his car after every meet if possible. Parts wear (uni cross joints, pulleys, belts) and get damaged. He's not the best for nothing and the top level guys do things to the smallest detail.
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Old 04-29-2008, 10:21 AM   #12139
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thought so! its making much more sense now! bent CVD's, worn joints, old bearings, bent hinge pins, bulkheads, tweaked chassis, worn ball cups, old & stretched belts, warped outdrives,etc.

Looks like I will be buying fresh kits every season then.
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Old 04-29-2008, 04:23 PM   #12140
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The parts in reality are a matrix of plastic and carbon.They are not just carbon fiber.So I mean it needs new plastic ie, arms, knuckles, c-hubs, uprights, ball cups, etc.


BTW,did anyone else see the pics of Hara's car form the Worlds warm up? He ran a cyclone S bottom deck.Wonder what he was testing that for.
Post some pics!


I didnt see that lol, sounds interesting
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Id say its a tough call, mainly cause the TC has the new diff, which is probably worth getting.

I dont think its that much lower a spec the main thing which bugs me is that the turnbuckles are not titanium, however, if you are not running 5 cell mod or your car is underweight anyway its probably not gunna be that much of an issue.
Also with the delrin diff halves on the TC you are probably better off upgrading to aluminium if you are racing 19T or a faster motor.

The cyclone S is the entry level car, the TC is more of a standard race spec car as opposed to the WCE which is fully optioned.
I stand corrected by mangoman. Perhaps I overstressed the difference in the level of kit. I'm just surprised that the new supposedly top-level HB car is missing a bunch of top-level bits. I mean, yes it's got the diff that the cyclone should have had since its inception - one that won't break diff screws every five minutes - but then they go and put delrin out drives on it instead of aluminium...
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Old 04-29-2008, 05:23 PM   #12142
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The parts in reality are a matrix of plastic and carbon.They are not just carbon fiber.So I mean it needs new plastic ie, arms, knuckles, c-hubs, uprights, ball cups, etc.


BTW,did anyone else see the pics of Hara's car form the Worlds warm up? He ran a cyclone S bottom deck.Wonder what he was testing that for.
Finding a way to 'out-cheap' the TC5...
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I stand corrected by mangoman. Perhaps I overstressed the difference in the level of kit. I'm just surprised that the new supposedly top-level HB car is missing a bunch of top-level bits. I mean, yes it's got the diff that the cyclone should have had since its inception - one that won't break diff screws every five minutes - but then they go and put delrin out drives on it instead of aluminium...

Why are you surprised?All cars out are a progression.All cars in a series have had things that needed improvements.And so the company makes them.But why wouldn't Hotbodies give themselves a chance to release a special edition kit in the near future?It's simple marketing.They lowered the price a little to market it as a lower priced kit not a lower spec kit.Obviously the special edition spec kit is in the future is coming in typical fashion for HB.Not that hard to figure out.
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Finding a way to 'out-cheap' the TC5...
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here you go.
That is weird! Maybe for more chassis flex? IDK

Thanks for the pics
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I stand corrected by mangoman. Perhaps I overstressed the difference in the level of kit. I'm just surprised that the new supposedly top-level HB car is missing a bunch of top-level bits. I mean, yes it's got the diff that the cyclone should have had since its inception - one that won't break diff screws every five minutes - but then they go and put delrin out drives on it instead of aluminium...
remember u have to think like its ur company its all about making money first come out with the tc it will sell then the sell start to drop then come out with upgrades sells then starts to drop then come out with a new kit with the upgrade all about keeping the money flowing in
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the TC version has also updated bulkheads and shock towers, new bridge between the bulkheads and the new diff obviously

I might be cheaper to take a TC and add the lightweight turnbuckles.. than an andy moore and add all the new bits..
In the end, it probably end up all the same
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the TC version has also updated bulkheads and shock towers, new bridge between the bulkheads and the new diff obviously

I might be cheaper to take a TC and add the lightweight turnbuckles.. than an andy moore and add all the new bits..
In the end, it probably end up all the same
if u look back u will see what i post its like 230 to take ur wce and make it a WCE TC
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Old 04-29-2008, 10:49 PM   #12150
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does cyclone wce needs any option parts to handle all the new brushless motors ?( heard that you need some option parts for the older version of the cyclone to get to certain gear ratio )
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