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Old 11-06-2007, 08:41 AM   #10006
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everybody is hitting on a new cyclone but could some one from hotbodies confirm this.
I had asked that employee from HPI in this thread before, but nothing replied.
Hold a second, DEC. edition of japanese magazines will release in these days, maybe there's some clues about this, but i preview should be difficult to find so much due it's so earlier to happen. Maybe after JMRCA Expert class nationals, let's see what chassis will Atsushi Hara use to this race.
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Old 11-06-2007, 12:23 PM   #10007
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You got PM sir.

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Thanks man... I'll give it a shot. Usually run rubber tire but have an enduro coming up that I need to run foams.
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I ordered the 18 tooth pulleys, and the new belts, just wondering what they make the tranny ratio now?

Is it 2.1?
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Old 11-06-2007, 08:23 PM   #10009
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I ordered the 18 tooth pulleys, and the new belts, just wondering what they make the tranny ratio now?

Is it 2.1?
39/18=2.166...
Or If you want make own ratio chart, try here:
http://www.gearchart.com/
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Old 11-06-2007, 09:43 PM   #10010
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39/18=2.166...
Or If you want make own ratio chart, try here:
http://www.gearchart.com/
I am going to go get on Javier to get in the cyclone with the new ratios

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Old 11-07-2007, 06:24 AM   #10011
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I ordered the 18 tooth pulleys, and the new belts, just wondering what they make the tranny ratio now?

Is it 2.1?
question...do you have to have the new belts with the 18t pulley?

a friend of mine runs the 3 racing 18t pulleys and never changed the belts...is it necessary?
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Old 11-07-2007, 06:52 AM   #10012
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Nope, as I saw photos in the JMRCA expert class qualify race, doesn't appeared the new HB chassis as rumoured before in the race.
Maybe only in Super expert finals, next year or IFMAR worlds, stay tuned.
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Old 11-07-2007, 07:02 AM   #10013
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What do the 18t pulleys do? are the worth to buy?
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Old 11-07-2007, 07:08 AM   #10014
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they lower the intermal ration of the care so you don't need to run a 80/55 to get the speed out of your BL motor
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question...do you have to have the new belts with the 18t pulley?

a friend of mine runs the 3 racing 18t pulleys and never changed the belts...is it necessary?
The belts loosen up the drive train, since you went up the teeth on the pulleys, the stock ones will be tight

Not necessary, but id do them, its only 10 bucks, not that bad
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Old 11-07-2007, 07:40 PM   #10016
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ok I've wondered something for awhile about spacers under the pivot blocks. I have an "S" upgraded with 3 racing parts so that almost all the plastic is gone. You said you used a 0 degree block on the front with 1 mm spacers under the blocks. I've tried that with my Cyclone and it just won't work. The arms rub against the bulkheads.... not to mention the steering turnbuckles hitting the FR pivot. Most setups I've seen that have raised the front blocks are using the 2.5 degree. That I could possibly see because it would move the arms a little away from the bulkhead. How did you get yours to work.... any modifications?

I'm from the Omaha area but unfortunately couldn't race last weekend. Wish I could have seen your Cyclone run... unfortunately I'm about the only Cyclone guy around running TC anymore. Hope you enjoyed our facility!!
Its not unusual for the steering turnbuckles to glance the FR block. On hara's original notes he was sanding them back.
Also note that they will hit if the wheels arent on the ground (which would'nt be the normal thing for wheels to do while the car is in motion!).

With arms rubbing the bulkheads im not exactly sure how that is possible, you will need to be more specific. About the point at which they are rubbing. But note if you are still running the plastic FR RF blocks then they are already raised, and if you are running the aluminium ones you will need to raise them 1mm to match the pivot blocks.
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Old 11-08-2007, 01:04 AM   #10017
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I don't get this.
Why should using 18T pulley, if the Novak's 3.5 BL must using 10.5 FDR?
What are advantages for this, even TRF416 is too?
What are the main difference about these 2 situations?
- Same FDR, same differential pulley, different center pulley.
- Same FDR, different differential pulley, same center pulley.
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Old 11-08-2007, 02:54 AM   #10018
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It means you dont have to get a stupidly big pinion to run a stupidly big rollout.
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Old 11-08-2007, 05:24 AM   #10019
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It means you dont have to get a stupidly big pinion to run a stupidly big rollout.
Wait, i stupidly don't understand, i am stock racer and didn't drive Cyclone before. I saw there's a option kit for Cyclone for using BL for bigger spurgear.
Why still using stupidly big pinion gears if you need big FDR, in case of overheat ESC you must put lower teeth than brushed, using 18T just will put FDR difficulty bigger?
Then i just want to know also if using big diff. pulley like Cyclone will benefict in the corners?

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I run my 13.5 BL Novak around 4.5-5.0 FDR - and it is crazy the gears I hjave to run to get there. The 18T pulleys will bring those gears into a more reasonable range.
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