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Old 05-21-2007, 04:09 PM   #8461
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Did you guys get a piece of purple anodized non-machined aluminum that looks suspiciously like a tie bar, but is never mentioned in the manual? It has two holes in it and is a bit narrower than the top plate.
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Adam - Just unscrew the lower shock eyelet about 2 turns from the top of the thread, this should give you enough shock length to have a massive amount of droop.

Also gents i have found that on shitty unprepared tracks if you run an excessive amount of droop the car can actually be much much smoother to drive, the tracks we have in Australia tend to have very little traction and be very dirty, so limiting the droop too much can tend to make the car react unpredicatably.
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Did you guys get a piece of purple anodized non-machined aluminum that looks suspiciously like a tie bar, but is never mentioned in the manual? It has two holes in it and is a bit narrower than the top plate.
Sounds like the suspension mount shim. You will want to start with 1.5mm all around. The Pro4 shims are the same. The Pro4 shims come with some that are a different width also. I cut those down and used them for the inner arm mount.
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I'm at a loss here on the droop thing? Why would you want to run 3mm of droop? That would put your center of gravity way up high and put a hole bunch of ground clearance in there for the chassis.

You are also limited on the amount the arms will travel downward by the overall length of your shocks.

All of the set-up sheets that I've seen that use the spacing that you put in, still run 5-6 on the droop settings.
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The droop set up 5mm front and 3 mm back was used by Simon Fiegl here on a bumpy low grip track with lots of success. Over here as Besercoe stated the tracks are rather bumpy and low on grip.
I did set the car up 5mm front and 5mm back and this seems okay.
I have spent a lot of time playing with droop and this is where i have had the best results rather than springs and sway bar ajustments.
On my MRE I changed the droop from 3mm to 5mm front and back and went a full second faster and also recorded my fastest lap and race time. I drove the same but the car had so much more grip and turn in.
Thanks For all your replies and its so good to get feedback here on the droop issue.
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Old 05-21-2007, 05:31 PM   #8465
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Adam - Just unscrew the lower shock eyelet about 2 turns from the top of the thread, this should give you enough shock length to have a massive amount of droop.
Thanks Bradd(Besercoe) and bjspinner
That did the trick.
Do you have any good set ups you can send me for our shitty/bumpy tracks
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Old 05-21-2007, 06:01 PM   #8466
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How come it's never mentioned in the manual?
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Old 05-21-2007, 06:04 PM   #8467
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So... it gives caster up front and anti-squat rear?
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Old 05-21-2007, 06:54 PM   #8468
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Do you have the cyclone or the cyclone S?

Only the cyclone S has a front diff, unless you changed from the one-way to a diff on the regular cyclone.

The cyclone S diffs are different than the regular cyclone diffs.
It is a regular cyclone, I bought it used and a diff came with it. I'll look at it again. maybe I didn't have a bearing seated all of the way, or it is an S diff. How can I tell for sure? It is back out, running spool now.
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Sounds like the suspension mount shim. You will want to start with 1.5mm all around. The Pro4 shims are the same. The Pro4 shims come with some that are a different width also. I cut those down and used them for the inner arm mount.
Yeah they should be shims to go under the pivot blocks. You will need to get round shims to go under the FR RF blocks.
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Old 05-22-2007, 12:31 AM   #8470
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Hey Mango (Martin)
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G'day all,

I'm trying to sort out my WCE prior to the upcoming Challenge Cup event in a couple of weeks. I've been running mod and breaking MIP CVDs left and right - literally. First the left went, then the right...

(Besercoe - it turns out it was a three-wheel drive problem I was having with the car. I appreciate your diagnostic help all the same).

So. Clearly I need to convert to the HD universal dogbones, even if it does mean a slight reduction in purple bling (note to self: buy more bling-bling purple bolts & screws to compensate. Investigate powdercoating the factory springs to matching purple. Send slightly abusive yet heartfelt and tear-jerking email to Trinity begging them to release a CO27 stock motor in purple).

I (well, mangoman) put in an RC Champ order, but HPI Japan are out of stock. Bummer. Looking at Tower, but the part numbers don't match what mangoman tells me I need

Can some kind person tell me what I need to buy and where I can order said items?

thanks in advance,
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G'day all,

I'm trying to sort out my WCE prior to the upcoming Challenge Cup event in a couple of weeks. I've been running mod and breaking MIP CVDs left and right - literally. First the left went, then the right...

(Besercoe - it turns out it was a three-wheel drive problem I was having with the car. I appreciate your diagnostic help all the same).

So. Clearly I need to convert to the HD universal dogbones, even if it does mean a slight reduction in purple bling (note to self: buy more bling-bling purple bolts & screws to compensate. Investigate powdercoating the factory springs to matching purple. Send slightly abusive yet heartfelt and tear-jerking email to Trinity begging them to release a CO27 stock motor in purple).

I (well, mangoman) put in an RC Champ order, but HPI Japan are out of stock. Bummer. Looking at Tower, but the part numbers don't match what mangoman tells me I need

Can some kind person tell me what I need to buy and where I can order said items?

thanks in advance,
Nick
Nick,

Try this website, i've ordered from there before and they are generally pretty good:

http://shopping.rcmodel.hk/

or speedtechrc.com maybe???

Hope you get they im time!

Cheers,

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Old 05-22-2007, 01:44 AM   #8473
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Robbie! Dude!!! speedtechrc.com have all the bits

Tower don't.

Legendary advice mate, thank you
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No probs!

Hope you get em all in time!...

I may have to place an order myself soon lol

Cheers mate,

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Ahh crap, no axles in stock
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