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Old 05-02-2007, 04:35 AM   #8191
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Thanks John

Your pics are awesome, i love seeing the stuff you come up with.
One other question, all the TRF guys running std 415 old skool cars, any inside info their?
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Old 05-02-2007, 04:51 AM   #8192
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As odd as it may sound, other details are of greater importance in order to make the car run well.
John, thanks for the photo's and info, but could you tell what's more important than balance to make the car run well?

About the stock TRF 415, that car seem to be better on carpet than the newer MSX (and alike versions), but it suprised me that Tamiya aloud their team drivers to run that car, since most of the time they have to run the 'latest greatest'.
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Old 05-02-2007, 06:03 AM   #8193
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bxpitbull, to tell you the truth ive never really had any problems with diff screws. However ive never used diff oil and i dont use the diff grease like the one which comes with the kits. I use this tube of stuff which i got ages ago and have no idea what it is.

I think i broke a spring once running the Pro 4 (go figure **SHRUG**) but my mate had me do it up as tight as possible because i didnt have a spool on carpet. Also i had a diff nut where the nut had stripped out from the holder (guess there was too much loctite on it from the last owner).

But i have a feeling i dont do my diffs up tight enuff. And thus i also go through a lot of diff rings (bought a bunch of 10 the other day **SMIRK** ive got bunches lieing around because i havent got around to sanding them down and reusing them).

** POST EDITED - incorrect information removed DoH! **

And ROV for durability get a P-Dub bumper and go for steel uni's in the front instead of aluminium.

Im wondering with Andy's car one of the local Aussie cyclone gurus was running some cooling thing on his speedy (?LRP?), but he said it made the car a pig, from recollection it was 35 grams overweight. Perhaps he has something like that on his car?
Yeah and luv the photos tooo, thanks
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Old 05-02-2007, 09:24 AM   #8194
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when is the new RTR cyclone coming out?
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Old 05-02-2007, 10:18 AM   #8195
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when is the new RTR cyclone coming out?
It's out already bleh. Why not go to Stormer Hobbies, spend a few more sheckles and get the kit
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Old 05-02-2007, 10:52 AM   #8196
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Thats interesting i didnt realise the cyclone S arms were different. 31420 (such as on the S) are the Pro 4 High Traction arms for use on high traction surfaces such as foam/carpet. They are actually harder than normal arms and not softer and should actually take away steering.
The high traction arms (31420) are actually ofter than the carbon arms that come stock on the cyclone/pro4.

http://www.hpiracing.co.jp/contents_...up_e/0410.html

"We used more flexible material for this high traction suspension arm set than the kit standard one. It is a perfect arm for poor grip surfaces or aggressive driving style. For a high-grip track, try this suspension arm only for the front to adjust the steering characteristics as one of useful settings. "


Pretty much all of the components that come on the "S" are more flexible. The front c-hubs are VERY brittle compared the standard, though.
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Old 05-02-2007, 11:06 AM   #8197
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PS is it just me or is that photo cyclone missing a cell 6v will be off da pace..
In Europe we race modified using 5 cells
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Old 05-02-2007, 11:06 AM   #8198
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Actually just reading through some old posts people said those arms were more durable not harder. I guess because there is a little more dampening in hard crashes due to the softer material.

Sorry about that.....
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Old 05-02-2007, 11:09 AM   #8199
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John, thanks for the photo's and info, but could you tell what's more important than balance to make the car run well?
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Well, normal set up options such as the usuall suspension tuning, shock oil, spring hardness, roll centers etc, shock positons etc..

There are always small little details that we never think of, but I could see Andy working on his car all the time...

for example.. the plastic black rear diff is used cause in low traction conditions it provides more grip, or at least it feals that way.

I am sure though that the ballance issue will be addressed and we might see some custom made chassis, or even production chassis. This is just off my mind.. I heard nothing of that sort...
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Let me get this right, guys run 6 cells and the cars are too fast waaahh . They go five cells, adjust their gearing to maintain "control". Wouldnt it be easier to adjust endpoints and gear properly? Wonder why nitro cats dont respect electric...sanctioning bodies finding ways to slow the cars down. Why dont you just go 6 cell and race 19T
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5 cell is a fast as 6 cell with some of the times people have been doing
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Let me get this right, guys run 6 cells and the cars are too fast waaahh . They go five cells, adjust their gearing to maintain "control". Wouldnt it be easier to adjust endpoints and gear properly? Wonder why nitro cats dont respect electric...sanctioning bodies finding ways to slow the cars down. Why dont you just go 6 cell and race 19T
...and your point is?
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Obviously Stew, you cant read. I clearly stated that if you pinheads want to go slower, go down a class. And if 5 cells is as fast as 6 cell, then why not just gear properly and run 6 cells? It isnt as fast, just a bit easier to handle. How about this, quit your sniveling. I guess where you people slower is better. I thought the purpose of racing is to finish first as quick as you can. Careful driving is for old people.
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