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Old 02-18-2007, 08:48 PM   #7201
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I too have been thinking about geting the Cyclone the one that is on sale at stormerhobbies for 200 bucks know, but I am not sure if I should just what intell the RCX show. Would hot bodies have any of there cars there for sale or would the cars just be there for display only?
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Old 02-19-2007, 01:53 AM   #7202
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Ok that sounds fair,

If you post the setup you tried and the problems you were having I'm sure Ill be able to help, if not someone else.

Also what tyres were you running?

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The set up is as follows
50wt 2@1.1
gold springs springs
hole 2 on tower
outside hole wishbone
1.4mm roll bar
1.5deg front sweep
hole 1 2.5mm under top link
1.5mm under lower arm front and rear
4mm ackerman
1.5 deg camber
4deg caster
5.5mm ride height
droop/ 4 all round
front spool
fixed centre
-2 camber

rear
50wt 2@1.1
silver springs
hole 3 on tower
middle hole on lower arm
3deg toe
wheelbase arms 1.5mm front 1.5mm rear
wheelbase hub 0.75 front 2mm rear
top link hole 1 1.75mm spacer
lower arms 1.5mm front and rear
1.2mm rollbar
ride height 5.5
-2 camber
Droop/ 4
mazda 6
LRP 24r
As i said the car was really good everywhere other than a slow speed chicane where it seemed that the front would dig in to much or the rear was loose, not sure which.

any advice would be a real help. Thanks!!

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Old 02-19-2007, 10:02 AM   #7203
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Looking at Moores Cyclone, a details makes me curious. What are the "circled" in the attached image good for ??
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Old 02-19-2007, 10:07 AM   #7204
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Tez - I had a similar problem with my recently. There are many changes with the setup that can be made. But my car was not reacting to many of the changes. I talked with Nick Stampfel and Stephen Sobottka. After they drove the car Nick said it felt like the front shocks were low on oil. My immediate reaction was, "No way"! The oil was only a week old. Well, I emptied and re-filled the front shocks with new oil, and the car was spectacular! The lower o-rings must be going bad on mine. Just something else to try. Your setup looks very comparable to mine. Shoot me your email and I can send you mine.

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Old 02-19-2007, 10:09 AM   #7205
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KFA - They stop the sway bar from moving from left-right in the mounts.

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Old 02-19-2007, 02:50 PM   #7206
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Tez,

If the fronts rolling and digging in too much try making the front link more angled. This will reduce the front from rolling as much.

If the rear is loose I'd try moving the rear wishbones back by 1.5mm, so you have all the spacers towards the centre of the car. This will make it much more stable.

Also I've noticed you are running 2 hole pistons, I personally woudnt recommend that after much testing. If you get a chance try 3x1.1mm pistons, it should make the car abit more reactive.

I'll fill in a sheet with the setup I'm running, seems to work everywhere I've been with minimal tweaks.

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Old 02-19-2007, 03:48 PM   #7207
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Heres that setup sheet.
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Old 02-19-2007, 04:17 PM   #7208
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i'm also thinking about buying the stormer cyclone, but I've never been a fan of the curved bulkhead over the batteries. i did see an option for a straight bar that attaches to the topdeck. has anyone used it or know the like. I also thought there as a center brace to create an even flex across the top deck....
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just wondering from the cyclone fans, i've got a yokomo bd, is there anyone that has run both and can give a good perspecive on the performance differences between the two cars. I was going to sell my bd and buy the stormer cyclone.

assume i'll be running the car in 19t rubber on carpet.
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Old 02-19-2007, 09:38 PM   #7210
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just wondering from the cyclone fans, i've got a yokomo bd, is there anyone that has run both and can give a good perspecive on the performance differences between the two cars. I was going to sell my bd and buy the stormer cyclone.

assume i'll be running the car in 19t rubber on carpet.
I consider BD having a low sweet spot out from the box since its known to have an understeer characteristic. Cyclone has a bigger sweetspot though. Both kits are good, just have to consider which will help your driving and parts support rom your LHS.
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Old 02-19-2007, 09:45 PM   #7211
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Heres that setup sheet.
Thanks for the advice!!!

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Where can i find bmi chasis kit for the cyclone to run on carpet with 26mm foams also looking for kit for tc4
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i'm also thinking about buying the stormer cyclone, but I've never been a fan of the curved bulkhead over the batteries. i did see an option for a straight bar that attaches to the topdeck. has anyone used it or know the like. I also thought there as a center brace to create an even flex across the top deck....
Yeah - the bent bulkhead actually works quite well. It allows very easy access to the screws holding the motor in. Very easy to do adjustments there.

However, I managed to bend my middle bulkhead, so I replaced it with the straight one by "Square". They do all the colours. It (like all Square stuff) is well made.

The middle brace is a GOOD idea - in a big crash, the forces going from bumper, through topdeck, will go into the middle bulkhead. Mine bent sideways and whilst the top-deck snapped due to lack of support. It split at the y junction. I since installed a CF brace and in another crash that snapped another top-deck, the middle bulkhead has stayed straight and true.
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BMI IS SELL THEIR STUFF THEMSELF, JUST GIVE THEN AN CALL AND U CAN GET WHAT EVER HE MAKES
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Where can i find bmi chasis kit for the cyclone to run on carpet with 26mm foams also looking for kit for tc4
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