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Old 04-07-2006, 04:14 AM   #3511
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yes under the suspention blocks makesure you file down the front rear mount to clear the tie rods


Remind me i have a setup sheet 2 give u sunday
Thanks Alex.What did you use for the shims? I'll bring my setup sheets too.So far,I still have the lead in 1/12th(whew).Gonna be a big day in TC.Jamie took the lead,with me right on Bob's back bumper.Sunday is last points day.lol.See you then,Mario.
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Old 04-07-2006, 07:41 AM   #3512
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Setup

Front

shocks, 35wt oil, pro4 2005 spec shock piston (3 hole piston), gold spring
0.5mm spacers under pivot blocks, 0 degree toe block, 0.5 degree total toe out.
4 degree castor
5mm ride height
standard shock position on lower arm, second hole from bottom on shock tower.(for shock mounting position)
3mm spacer under inner camber link in standard position.
Ackermann, all standard
6mm droop
standard wheelbase
2005 spec wheel hexes (narrower)

Rear

shocks, 35wt oil, pro4 2005 spec shock piston (3 hole piston), silver spring
1mm spacers under pivot blocks, 2 degree toe block, 3 degrees total toe in with alloy "inbuilt 1 degree toe in" hubs.
5.5mm ride height
3rd hole from bottom on shock tower, standard position on lower arm (shock mounting positions)
5mm droop
2mm spacer under inner camberlink, standard position
standard wheelbase
2005 spec wheel hexes (narrower)

This setup was reccommended to me by HPI.

I tried it with brand new tyres and it still understeered. I put a 2.5 degree toe block on the front along with silver springs on the front shocks and my laptimes changed less than a 1/10 of a second and it still understeer.

Any suggestions? I think it may be to do with something else with car. How are other people setting the built in servo saver? I tightened mine up some more past the instruction manuals settings and have installed a 2005 Spec pro4 diff to see if that helps.
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Old 04-07-2006, 08:07 AM   #3513
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A couple of things I can sugest looking at your set up.

In the front put back the 2.5* toe block on.

In the rear run more droop to help the car shift more weight to the front, in breaking and neutral troghtle situations.

Start with that and see what happens.

Im actually running this set up.

Hara standard set up.

I just make small changes depending on the track.
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Old 04-07-2006, 08:10 AM   #3514
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i was gonna suggest more rear droop, as well... seems like my experience with the car on asphalt, the car liked more rear droop.

usually had mad crazy steering with the double oneways.
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Old 04-07-2006, 09:34 AM   #3515
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i would try thicker front oil to slow the weight transfer to the rear.i would run the standard hexes also.i am running 1.5mm shims under all of my hinge pin blocks.i run the 2.5 front block and the 3.0 rear.i am running the same shims on the camber links.my front shocks on the tower are all the way layed down with the standard arm hole position.stock ackerman shims.i am running 4.5mm ride height in front and 5mm in rear.6mm droop front and rear.standard wheelbase.try also using tire tweak on your tires.apply for about 20 minutes.then clean tires off completely with buggy grip right before you run.my car is extremely aggressive and i need to stay smoothe or it will oversteer.i always like my cars this way.even my spool car that i run in mod is this way.i just love steering.1 more thing you can try is running antisquat in the rear.that will give you more entry steering.i havent needed this but it will give more steering.as for the servo saver,i lock it up as tight as possible.i like to see how far servos can go.
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Old 04-07-2006, 12:58 PM   #3516
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Thanks Alex.What did you use for the shims? I'll bring my setup sheets too.So far,I still have the lead in 1/12th(whew).Gonna be a big day in TC.Jamie took the lead,with me right on Bob's back bumper.Sunday is last points day.lol.See you then,Mario.


i used 20 thousants motor washers the are the closest that dot had
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Thanks Alex.What did you use for the shims? I'll bring my setup sheets too.So far,I still have the lead in 1/12th(whew).Gonna be a big day in TC.Jamie took the lead,with me right on Bob's back bumper.Sunday is last points day.lol.See you then,Mario.

hey mario i am going to try my best to take you out on sunday in tc... try and help bob out a little.. later
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Old 04-07-2006, 03:13 PM   #3518
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Hot Bodies Cyclone Surikarn Edition

this I just got but not running Much electric this summer. I just got it Today )04/07/06) through rcmart
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Old 04-07-2006, 03:36 PM   #3519
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Old 04-07-2006, 05:40 PM   #3520
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I will have some soon
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Old 04-07-2006, 07:15 PM   #3521
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hey mario i am going to try my best to take you out on sunday in tc... try and help bob out a little.. later
Oh,and what idiot is this?BTW,Jamie is leading,bob second,Me third.Gonna use the TC4, not the fragilleee RDX.Have a feeling you ain't the only one looking for blood on sunday.LOL.Should be a fun day.BTW,is this you John?
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hey guys,
check out how consistant my 1 way stock car was last weekend.it was a little squirly at first because i didnt have time to scrub the tires in and they were new.once they came in the car was awesome.very consistant.



Top Qualifier for T/C STOCK:
JASON BREINER with 22/6:00.28

-- T/C STOCK - A MAIN --
pos Car Laps time name id
1 1 23 6:07.13 JASON BREINER 4
2 4 22 6:04.98 DAVE WEBB 2
3 2 22 6:07.54 ROBERT GONZALEZ 16
4 3 22 6:12.43 MARCOS JENNINGS 11
5 7 21 6:12.91 MATT STROW 14
6 5 7 2:00.37 JAMIE WHITE 5
-- 6 --- DNS --- DORAN MCCORMACK 20


-- T/C STOCK --A MAIN --
nCar-> __1__ __2__ __3__ __4__ __5__ __6__ __7__ __8__ __9__ __0__
1 1/12.8 2/13.4 4/15.4 3/14.5 5/16.3 6/17.0
2 1/15.6 2/15.5 4/17.9 3/17.0 6/18.3 5/17.3
3 2/16.7 1/15.9 4/16.8 3/16.1 5/17.0 6/17.7
4 1/16.6 6/28.8#3/16.9 2/17.4 4/17.2 5/18.8 <<<
5 1/16.1 6/16.4 3/16.8 2/15.9 4/16.9 5/17.2
6 1/15.8 6/16.2 3/16.2 2/16.9 4/17.1 5/17.3
7 1/16.2 6/16.2 3/16.5 2/17.2 4/17.3 5/16.6
8 1/16.2 4/16.7 3/16.5 2/16.2 6/ 5/17.7
9 1/16.1 4/15.7 3/17.3 2/16.9 6/ 5/16.6
10 1/16.2 4/16.3 3/16.7 2/17.1 6/ 5/17.2
11 1/16.0 4/15.9 3/17.5 2/16.8 6/ 5/
12 1/16.3 4/16.3 3/17.1 2/16.4 6/ 5/19.5
13 1/15.8 4/15.7 3/17.2 2/16.8 6/ 5/17.2
14 1/15.8 3/16.5 4/17.1 2/16.3 6/ 5/17.6
15 1/15.8 3/15.6 4/16.7 2/16.9 6/ 5/19.9
16 1/15.8 3/16.4 4/ 2/16.6 6/ 5/18.1
17 1/15.9 3/16.3 4/17.5 2/16.5 6/ 5/17.4
18 1/15.9 3/16.9 4/16.7 2/16.2 6/ 5/
19 1/15.8 3/15.8 4/17.0 2/16.3 6/ 5/19.1
20 1/15.8 3/ 4/16.4 2/16.2 6/ 5/17.6
21 1/15.8 3/17.1 4/16.5 2/16.4 6/ 5/17.4
22 1/17.2 3/16.4 4/16.7 2/17.1 6/ 5/17.2
23 1/15.7 3/16.4 4/18.0 2/ 6/ 5/17.4
_____ _____ _____ _____ _____ _____ _____ _____ _____ _____
laps 23 22 22 22 7 21
time 367.1 367.5 372.4 364.9 120.3 372.9
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What happend there? Were you falling asleep 'cause the car is so good?
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Old 04-08-2006, 03:45 AM   #3524
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Just finishing up the build of my standard cyclone.In the box was a package of 4 rectangular shims,At least They look likeshims.2 purple,2 silver.There is nothing in the instructions about them.Anybody have any ideas what they're for?The purple ones are about 2mm thick,the silver about 1mm thick.Thanks,Mario.
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Old 04-08-2006, 03:51 AM   #3525
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They go under the suspension blocks. They lower the chassis or raise the suspension.
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