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Old 04-25-2010, 02:15 AM   #18961
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Old 04-25-2010, 08:50 PM   #18962
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Has anyone compared the MIP CVD's v's DCJ..

I have just snapped the black part of the MIP CVD (part#80824) which caused the pin to elongate the hole on the drive shaft.. I am finding it hard to locate these MIP CVD's now.. and HB won't sell outside the US..

So I have purchased a couple of DCJ's I am just concered that they are not as smooth as the MIP CVD's.. has anyone got some opinions on the DCJ's when compared to the other types of drive shafts for the Cyclone.. also how durable are they?? better then the MIP or not as durable as the Version 2 HD drive shafts??

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Old 04-25-2010, 09:03 PM   #18963
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Hi, I have used DCJ for about 6 months and I can say they stay smooth and last longer than the steel drive shafts. I normally run 11.5T and 10.5T, and a pair would last at least 2-3 months. Just remember to swap them left/right every 1-2 weeks. I have not tried MIP, but I suspect DCJ will probably last longer because there are 2 joints so the angles of each join is only half of the regular UJ when you turn the wheels. Furthermore they are completely made of steel, not alum like the MIPs.








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Has anyone compared the MIP CVD's v's DCJ..

I have just snapped the black part of the MIP CVD (part#80824) which caused the pin to elongate the hole on the drive shaft.. I am finding it hard to locate these MIP CVD's now.. and HB won't sell outside the US..

So I have purchased a couple of DCJ's I am just concered that they are not as smooth as the MIP CVD's.. has anyone got some opinions on the DCJ's when compared to the other types of drive shafts for the Cyclone.. also how durable are they?? better then the MIP or not as durable as the Version 2 HD drive shafts??

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Old 04-27-2010, 03:06 AM   #18964
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Hi Korey & Co,

(1) My setup is similar to Hara TITC 2009 and has morphed a bit using the Asphalt Base Setup by Phil Chambers (cut top and rear decks, stood up rear shock, & more recently the 3.5deg rear toe). The primary changes were made to fix a problem with the rear end breaking loose. The outdoor asphalt track is quite large, with an 80m front straight (photo attached).

(2) At my latest race meet, one of the other drivers marshalling (has an xray or two, as does most other drivers for that matter) indicated that my chassis was rolling a lot in the rear. This got me to thinking, as the underside, outside edges of my chassis have been scrapped & worn quite a bit (lots of roll?).

(3) Are other drivers (Team Drivers) who are running on asphalt, having the same wear on the underside, outside edges of the chassis ??

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I'm a bit surprised no response to this has come. last weekend i also saw some strange rolling motions on my cyclone after laying in the rear shocks a bit.
can you write down your full setup in a sheet as you run it including the weight your running at. talking to another cyclone user we discussed the possibility of the lower weight then the cyclone was designed for as possible upset factor.
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Old 04-27-2010, 03:41 AM   #18965
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I'm a bit surprised no response to this has come. last weekend i also saw some strange rolling motions on my cyclone after laying in the rear shocks a bit.
can you write down your full setup in a sheet as you run it including the weight your running at. talking to another cyclone user we discussed the possibility of the lower weight then the cyclone was designed for as possible upset factor.
Hi,

Recent setups as follows.
Latest change has a more stable rear end.
Any insights appreciated.

** THIS SETUP USED UNTIL RECENTLY **
Drive:________F=SpoolV3 + R=Diff
Ackermann:____F=2.0
Shock Spring:__F=Silver + R=Silver
Shock Oil:_____F=AE60 + R=AE60 + FullRebound + Foam
Shock Piston:___F=2hole_1.2mm + R=2hole_1.2mm
Shock Position:__F=3+1 + R=2+2
Camber Link:____F=2.0 + R=1.5 + F=Long + R=Long
Camber:_______F=2.20 + R=1.75
Toe Block:______F=1.5 + R=3.0
Toe:__________F=neg_1.0
Block Shims:____F=1.5_1.5 + R=1.5_1.5
Wheelbase:_____F=2.0_0.5 + R=2.0_0.5 + R(hub)=2.0_0.5
Hex Hub:_______F=std + R=std
Swaybar:_______F=1.4 + R=1.2
Swaybar Gap:___F=2.0 + R=1.5
Downstops:_____F=8.0 + R=8.0
Ride Height:____F=5.2 + R=5.5
Middle Deck:___Cut=yes
Top Deck:______FrontPosts=no + Cut=yes
Miscellaneous:___BodyType=Mazda6 + Weight=approx 1425gms
Tires:_________F=S36AF + R=S36AF
Electronics:____TeamEpic2(5degs) + TekinRS(444K612K21402) + 81/23 (7.60) + Fan x2
#Note:_Downstops measured from centre of hinge pin (shaft) at end of sus arm.
#Note:_Downstops (centre of axle) = Downstops (hinge_pin) + 14.5mm (* Check camber first *)

** FOLLOWING CHANGE WAS USED LAST RACE MEET **
Drive:________F=SpoolV3 + R=Diff
Ackermann:____F=2.0
Shock Spring:__F= Silver + R=Silver
Shock Oil:_____F=AE60 + R=AE60 + FullRebound + Foam
Shock Piston:___F=2hole_1.2mm + R=2hole_1.2mm
Shock Position:__F=3+1 + R=5+2
Camber Link:____F=2.0 + R=1.5 + F=Long + R=Long
Camber:_______ F=1.5 + R=1.5 + Fgain=0.6 + Rgain=0.7 + Ffull-lock=2.0_0.0
Toe Block:_____F=1.5 + R=2.5 + R(out)=1.0 (* Rtotal=3.5 *)
Toe:__________F=pos_1.0
Block Shims:____F=1.5_1.5 + R=1.5_1.5
Wheelbase:_____F=2.0_0.5 + R=2.0_0.5 + R(hub)=2.0_0.5
Hex Hub:_______F=std + R=std
Swaybar:_______F=1.4 + R=1.2
Swaybar Gap:___F=2.0 + R=1.5
Downstops:_____F=10.0 + R=9.5
Ride Height:____F=5.5 + R=6.0
Middle Deck:___Cut=yes
Top Deck:______FrontPosts=no + Cut=yes
Miscellaneous:___BodyType=Mazda6 + Weight=approx 1425gms
Tires:_________F=S36AF + R=S36AF
Electronics:____TeamEpic2(6degs) + TekinRS(504K713K01202) + 81/23 (7.60) + Fan x2
#Note:_Downstops measured from centre of hinge pin (shaft) at end of sus arm.
#Note:_Downstops (centre of axle) = Downstops (hinge_pin) + 14.5mm (* Check camber first *)

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Old 04-27-2010, 07:53 PM   #18966
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So a 26tooth pinion is a good start for a 17.5 motor? I have a race this weekend and finally getting the car built, can wait to get back into onroad!! Let me know about my question thanks
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Old 04-27-2010, 07:57 PM   #18967
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So a 26tooth pinion is a good start for a 17.5 motor? I have a race this weekend and finally getting the car built, can wait to get back into onroad!! Let me know about my question thanks
Hi,

It's really depends on what Motor, ESC, Indoor or Outdoor? Let us know.

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Old 04-27-2010, 08:01 PM   #18968
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i will be racing on an outdoor track that is small/medium in largeness in florida using a speed passion lpf and an epic duo 17.5 motor and a cyclone s. what is a recommended fdr to have to use that with the new beta 231 software? would a 5.54 or a 8.3 be acceptable to use without overheating
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Old 04-27-2010, 08:03 PM   #18969
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i will be racing on an outdoor track that is small/medium in largeness in florida using a speed passion lpf and an epic duo 17.5 motor and a cyclone s. what is a recommended fdr to have to use that with the new beta 231 software? would a 5.54 or a 8.3 be acceptable to use without overheating
I have almost the same setup as you and I just ran software 230 last weekend with a 6.5 FDR and it is too low for my small/medium parking lot track. My motor went up to 200*. I geared it to 7.05 and it's good now...fast and temps around 140*. You will either be too overgeared or too undergeared. Spend a few bucks on gears instead of having to spend more on a new motor.
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I have almost the same setup as you and I just ran software 230 last weekend with a 6.5 FDR and it is too low for my small/medium parking lot track. My motor went up to 200*. I geared it to 7.05 and it's good now...fast and temps around 140*. You will either be too overgeared or too undergeared. Spend a few bucks on gears instead of having to spend more on a new motor.
ok well i have to download the software first from a guy at my track but i have the gears to get a 7.3 but they wont interlock inside the car cuz theyre too small
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hi guys in running on a large asphalt here is a link http://www.mikes-hobbyshop.com/OnRoadTrack.html
anyway im going to run 13.5 on a TC not the older version so im looking to get some tips on gearing can any of you guys help me out with a starting point before i go buy a bunch of gears/pinions. anything will help hopefully some of you pro guys can hook a brotha up thanks in advance
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Hey guys.
just wanting to know who has the 0 deg suspension blocks instock? dont mind ordering from US or asia.

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just wanting to know who has the 0 deg suspension blocks instock? dont mind ordering from US or asia.

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