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Old 03-09-2010, 10:12 AM   #18676
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Sorry I missed your post. The LRP X-12's are actually my favorite modified motors right now. I would start at about a 8.6-8.8 final drive ratio to start, then go from there.

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Hey guys ,new to this thread but have been following it. I have had a Hara cyclone for little over a year now and racing in a club with very low grip carpet. Just cant get the back end to stay put. Running similar to Moore 2008 carpet wars set-up, moore 24 compound tires and 13.5 brushless. Any Ideas?
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was barrys mod setup the same he used for 13.5 at birds?
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Old 03-09-2010, 11:55 AM   #18679
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Thanks for the response, The TC isnt outdated though is it? I know its been out a while... I might be leaning towards cyclone now in stead of xray

Cyclone is not outdated, just hasn't been anything too much to improve on it of late, the Exotech chassis seems to be the way to go for LiPo or you could go with a home made option (cheaper) the Cyclone is a great car fairly bullet proof and very quick, forget the x-ray the parts costs are too high and the T3 is generally disliked by many people who bought one.
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Does any comapny make a direct bolt on accessory for lipo batteries for the stock chassis? Thanks for your help
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hey guys i ordered a novak havoc 17.5 brushless system and it is coming in the mail tomorrow. it will work in the stock chassis for the cyclone s right?
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hey guys i ordered a novak havoc 17.5 brushless system and it is coming in the mail tomorrow. it will work in the stock chassis for the cyclone s right?
honestly, it will depend on your local rules..any speedo/motor will work in the "S" chassis - you might have to open the motor mounting screws a little to get a bigger pinion on the stock spur...but there's no reason it won't work for you
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Hey guys ,new to this thread but have been following it. I have had a Hara cyclone for little over a year now and racing in a club with very low grip carpet. Just cant get the back end to stay put. Running similar to Moore 2008 carpet wars set-up, moore 24 compound tires and 13.5 brushless. Any Ideas?
the last time I ran 13.5, I ran Andy Moore's 2009 IIC setup and changed the springs a little to suit my driving style...I also use the "S" middle deck on the car to get a little more flex in the rear end
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honestly, it will depend on your local rules..any speedo/motor will work in the "S" chassis - you might have to open the motor mounting screws a little to get a bigger pinion on the stock spur...but there's no reason it won't work for you
yeah i was gonna get a 13.5 turn but my track doesnt allow those in the novice class so i got a 17.5. thanks!
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Thanks bohar I will look into the differences. On another note I have read that more rear toe in will increase rear traction can any one validate this? This car handles almost like a drift car the way the rear end snaps out under power. Currently I also race an old Xray T1 and I hate to say this but it handles much better than the Hara and I only paid a 100 bucks for it. There has to be something up. I know these are good cars, just cant get it working.
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Did you use tire compound?Using it properly can make a huge difference. Make sure the tires work as they should before any major adjustment

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Hey guys ,new to this thread but have been following it. I have had a Hara cyclone for little over a year now and racing in a club with very low grip carpet. Just cant get the back end to stay put. Running similar to Moore 2008 carpet wars set-up, moore 24 compound tires and 13.5 brushless. Any Ideas?
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Thanks. Yes I have tried several combinations, none in front 1/2 in front. Doesnt seem to make much difference.
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where in il do you live i race for HB and can help you with setup if you need im in northern IL
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Thanks. Yes I have tried several combinations, none in front 1/2 in front. Doesnt seem to make much difference.
You need to have a balance of toe in on the rear to much will have a drifty rear end on and off power and to much will understeer on power and kick out wildly unexpectedly off power needing power to control it. But make sure you have no air in your shocks and most importantly your diff is very important if you do not get this setup well then you will always be taily on power all the time with understeer!!
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Did you use tire compound?Using it properly can make a huge difference. Make sure the tires work as they should before any major adjustment
hi , ive always had similiar problems , both same with a 13.5 and cyclone tc on low grip carpet with 24 tyres and no additive

would also apprieciate some advice on the loose back end
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