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Old 09-28-2009, 12:32 AM   #17491
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Do the IP4200 trinity hardcase lipos fit in the Cyclone (i have a hara edition) just fine?

Weight: 8.29oz, or 235 grams
Length:5.43", or 134mm
Width: 1.84", or 47.8mm
Height: 0.92", or 23.3mm.
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Old 09-28-2009, 12:39 AM   #17492
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IP4200 fit right in, i use the IP 5000 which need some filing on the right bulkhead when youre not using the plastic tray.
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Old 09-28-2009, 12:39 AM   #17493
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Alright. I'm going to give a rundown of the shock positions since it seems to be a very commonly asked question.

From furthest out on the arm to the furthest inside

Front:
New #1
Old #1 = New #2
New #3
Old #2 = New #4

Rear:
Old #1 = New #1
New #2
Old #2 = New #3
New #4
Old #3 = New #5

The other changes on the TC just allow for more durable upper bulkheads. Because there is extra meat there, they had to raise the shock mounting point. So they made "lowered" shock towers to maintain the same overall geometry. So in the end, there isn't any change to the geometry of the suspension besides the new arms. Other changes include a slightly different chassis plate, some hardware differences, the 2 way diff, and the pro spec diff.

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Old 09-28-2009, 12:46 AM   #17494
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IP4200 fit right in, i use the IP 5000 which need some filing on the right bulkhead when youre not using the plastic tray.
thanks!
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Old 09-28-2009, 05:28 AM   #17495
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Slaving is more like it....

The HB was working pretty well this weekend. I'll have my set up posted on gearchart later on today when I get some time. Korey gave me the set up and I tweaked it to fit.

Thanks Korey for all your help.

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Old 09-28-2009, 07:33 PM   #17496
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Does anyone know where I can get a chassis protector for the cyclone TC?
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Old 09-28-2009, 07:52 PM   #17497
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Does anyone know where I can get a chassis protector for the cyclone TC?
I have two of these films, they are great;

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Old 09-29-2009, 06:21 AM   #17498
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hopefully someone can help me
just got an original cyclone(black edition) and i've been trying to get a rubber tire setup on the car. all the sheets i've found are showing 1.5mm under the hinge pin holders,in the front, the arm spacing is 2.3mm rear, .5mm front, and ackerman is 4mm. when i put this setup on the car, the steering tierods jam against the rear hinge pin block(they actually rub slightly with no spacing under the hinge pin block)
how do you get this setup to work or am i misunderstanding it ?
any help would be greatly appreciated
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hopefully someone can help me
just got an original cyclone(black edition) and i've been trying to get a rubber tire setup on the car. all the sheets i've found are showing 1.5mm under the hinge pin holders,in the front, the arm spacing is 2.3mm rear, .5mm front, and ackerman is 4mm. when i put this setup on the car, the steering tierods jam against the rear hinge pin block(they actually rub slightly with no spacing under the hinge pin block)
how do you get this setup to work or am i misunderstanding it ?
any help would be greatly appreciated
when i ran a black cyclone i would dremel some material off the hinge pin block so it would not rub agaist the tie rod..
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Old 09-29-2009, 07:57 AM   #17500
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hopefully someone can help me
just got an original cyclone(black edition) and i've been trying to get a rubber tire setup on the car. all the sheets i've found are showing 1.5mm under the hinge pin holders,in the front, the arm spacing is 2.3mm rear, .5mm front, and ackerman is 4mm. when i put this setup on the car, the steering tierods jam against the rear hinge pin block(they actually rub slightly with no spacing under the hinge pin block)
how do you get this setup to work or am i misunderstanding it ?
any help would be greatly appreciated
Make sure that you are in the #2 hole on the axel carrier. It's the one away from the wheel.
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yup, just dremel off the edge of the block under both steering tierods.
it's an easy fix.
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Old 09-29-2009, 08:43 AM   #17502
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i'll do that

just curious...is that 1.5 mm spacing under the hinge pin blocks the ticket for running rubber on carpet ?

running 17.5 brushless/5K lipo (already modded the bulkhead to fit the lipo)
just wondering if i need that much roll center height or not

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Old 09-29-2009, 08:56 AM   #17503
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it's not the 'ticket' but it is part of the over all set-up.
from a couple of pages back:
The suspension blocks do change roll center and camber change characteristics much like the camber link shims do... but the shims under the suspension blocks have a much greater effect on roll center than it does on the camber change characteristics. More shims under the suspension blocks raises the roll center. This gives more initial grip, less roll, but less overall grip in the middle and exit of the corner. Think of it as if the car feels... stiffer. Fewer shims will lower the roll center. The result is a car that rolls more and has more overall grip in the middle and exit of the corner. It does smooth out the car entering the corner though.
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what circumstance would i use 1mm or zero spacers under the suspension blocks ?
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what circumstance would i use 1mm or zero spacers under the suspension blocks ?
When you want your car to roll a lot.
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