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Old 08-16-2009, 10:53 AM   #17191
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I tried Korey's set up which works pretty well for me on parking lot races as well as indoor asphalt.

parking lot/low-medium asphalt setup now (90 deg air temp).

Front:

Spring: HPI Pro 4 Pink
Oil: Losi 70wt, zero rebound, no foam
Piston: 2 hole 1.2mm (the stock one)
Shock Position: 2 on arm, 3 on tower
Camber Link Position: long, 2mm under inner pivot
Camber: 2 deg
Caster: 4 deg
Toe block: 2.5 deg (try a 2.... it'll give a little bit crisper turn in)
Shims under suspension and toe blocks: 1.0mm
Droop: 5.5mm off of a gauge
Toe: 0
Wheelbase: .7mm behind arm, 2mm in front
Ackerman: 3mm on center bell crank
Front drive: spool
Swaybar: silver (1.4mm with 2mm gap in the links)

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Spring: HPI pro 4 blue
Oil: Losi 70wt, zero rebound, no foam
Piston: 1.2mm 2 hole
Shock position: 4 on tower, 3 on arm
Camber link position: long on bulkhead (1mm under pivot) and short on rear hub (0mm under it).
Toe block: 3 deg
Rear Hub: 0 deg (stock)
Swaybar: copper (1.2mm) with 3mm gap in link
Shims under toe and suspension blocks: 1.5mm
wheelbase: 2mm in front of arm,
any guys got a good concrete track set up a good base to set up
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Old 08-16-2009, 12:56 PM   #17192
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any guys got a good concrete track set up a good base to set up
Hey reggie what's up ya coming back to easly s.c soon to race with us?
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Old 08-16-2009, 10:51 PM   #17193
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Old 08-16-2009, 11:03 PM   #17194
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Just picked up a Cyclone. I'll be running 17.5. Orion has 3.5 as starting point. What gearing configurations does the chassis like best? I have a 47 & 52 pinion in my box.

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Old 08-17-2009, 07:22 AM   #17195
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I have a moorespeed cyclone roller with some parts for sale. I hate to sell it but I need to raise some cash.

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I have added a link since the search seems to be acting up.
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what length should the cyclone tc shocks be and how do u measure them?
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Old 08-17-2009, 10:49 AM   #17197
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Just picked up a Cyclone. I'll be running 17.5. Orion has 3.5 as starting point. What gearing configurations does the chassis like best? I have a 47 & 52 pinion in my box.

Thanks. Rob.............
Are you running the Orion 17.5, or just looking at their gear chart?
The gearing will depend on the track and motor, Rob.
For the most part, you'll be between 3.5 and 4.7 FDR. Bottom end of that range for a higher torque motor on a large asphalt track. And near the top end of that for a higher RPM motor on a tighter track.

For example, I found the Orion 17.5 to have less top end, and ran it on an indoor carpet track at 3.9. On the same track, I run the 17.5 ORCA (higher RPM motor) at 4.6

On the TC (with the 18tooth pulleys) I usually start with the 93 spur for spec racing. With that, you can go from 4.9 to 3.6 FDR using 41 to 55 pinions.
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Old 08-17-2009, 11:06 AM   #17198
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what length should the cyclone tc shocks be and how do u measure them?
I haven't measured them. If you assemble them as per manual, shock lengths don't come into play when setting droop. Just make sure they're all the same length.

Some manufacturers had used shock lengths in the past to set droop, and some still do in off-road racing. If you look at all D8 setups, they measure the shock lengths for droop, even though droop screws are used for the adjustment.

On the TC, droop is adjusted by the droop screws and measured one of two ways:
- Using droop guage to under arm (under outer hinge pin). With this method, you should be in the 5mm and 6.5mm range.
- With the chassis on a setup board, the vertical distance from setup board to center of outer driveshaft. This method gives you a 8mm to 9.5mm reading.
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what length should the cyclone tc shocks be and how do u measure them?
I always run mine 11.5mm from the bottom of the shock to the top of the bottom eyelet.
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If anybody is interested, I have a NIB Cyclone (kit #HB55400) for sale, just no time or racing right now. No reasonable offer refused and I have lots of ebay feedback.

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Old 08-17-2009, 05:29 PM   #17202
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Hey reggie what's up ya coming back to easly s.c soon to race with us?
hey what up yeah i like to mke it me and marvin was coming. we planning to expand the hobbystop track 10 by 90 in the future hopefully by nxt summer hey call me i got some thing to ask u call me 8033208843
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Yup, go to the middle hole. I think thats approx 10-15 deg of timing depending on manufacturing tolerances. I'm not 100% sure on that, but I AM 100% sure it's fast

-Korey
I just wanted to double check the timing advice.

I am now running an LRP SPX on profile 7 (with the Trinity Duo 10.5T brushless).
Should I advance the motor timing above zero, or just rely on the speedy firmware to advance the timing ??

Note that heat should not be a major issue as I have a heatsink & fan on the SPX, and a fan on the motor (can never be too careful). Most of the other SPX drivers are running an FDR between 6.2 and 6.5 (big flowing 1000' track).

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Are you running the Orion 17.5, or just looking at their gear chart?
The gearing will depend on the track and motor, Rob.
For the most part, you'll be between 3.5 and 4.7 FDR. Bottom end of that range for a higher torque motor on a large asphalt track. And near the top end of that for a higher RPM motor on a tighter track.

For example, I found the Orion 17.5 to have less top end, and ran it on an indoor carpet track at 3.9. On the same track, I run the 17.5 ORCA (higher RPM motor) at 4.6

On the TC (with the 18tooth pulleys) I usually start with the 93 spur for spec racing. With that, you can go from 4.9 to 3.6 FDR using 41 to 55 pinions.

RC Pete, Thanks for the info.

I am running the Orion 17.5. My TC has the 16t pulleys.

The track I race on has medium straights, about 60', and infield that varies. I spoke with Orion. They suggested I run in the range of 4.5 to 4.8.

I was just looking for a starting point. Gear size being the factor. Don't know what the TC chassis will allow. I have some gears coming. I'll have to let the temp gun determine which is best.

Thanks again, Rob.............
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I just wanted to double check the timing advice.

I am now running an LRP SPX on profile 7 (with the Trinity Duo 10.5T brushless).
Should I advance the motor timing above zero, or just rely on the speedy firmware to advance the timing ??

Note that heat should not be a major issue as I have a heatsink & fan on the SPX, and a fan on the motor (can never be too careful). Most of the other SPX drivers are running an FDR between 6.2 and 6.5 (big flowing 1000' track).

Thanks in advance
Yea, start with the middle hole for timing. Just keep an eye on temps and you should be fine.

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