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Old 08-09-2009, 02:43 AM   #17131
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Thats the gas diff? do you have a part #? How much does it weigh?
HPI RS4 parts !
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Old 08-09-2009, 04:04 AM   #17132
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Dear for everyone, in case i finished already my race day.
I could tell everybody today i have broken 4 set reversible suspension arms.
Unfortunately mostly crashes are just little touch at the wall and some somersault without any serious impact.
I don't know why, but i am doubt about the reliability of HB arms in the case i am the only 1 Cyclone of the main race and i am also the 1 with most time crashed then stopped during the mains, i have seen the others guys with tamiya cars with serious accident even fly through the corners and straights, but the still run without any serious damage.
Could somebody tell if is matter to change using HPI old version arms instead those HB origins reversible arms in fact are too fragile, if i want to have a reliable car, please?

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Old 08-09-2009, 06:01 AM   #17133
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HPI RS4 parts !
Really, your going to answer with an exclamation point and you don't carry the part?
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After ongoing investigations, I went for the Futaba BLS 551.
It is brushless, low profile, plus good speed & torque (almost got a 451, but its not low profile).
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Can anyone recommend a good quality Metal Gear servo for my TC?
I have a Sanwa MX-3FG radio.

Maybe a Futaba of some sort?

The Sanwa servo's that came with the radio were functionally ok, but the teeth strip too easily.

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Futaba 9550, or 9551

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(1) I think the Futaba 9551 sounds reasonable.
Only available online from A Main at present (everyone else is out of stock).
Selling for around US$85.

(2) Also, I just discovered a Hitec 645 in an old off road buggy at home.
Torque is 133 and speed is 0.2; slow-ish but I'm not sure how critical this is.
Not digital either.

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Old 08-09-2009, 09:27 AM   #17135
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I did when I ran for xray, but not specifically on this car. The colored springs are pretty linear, but those black springs they use a lot more now I've never tried.

-Korey
I'm interested in the main differences between the Xray and HB TC (hopefully you can answer without being beat up).

At my club, a lot of the guys run the Xray, however, (based on a web review, one other local driver, and "apparent" availability at the time) I went for the TC.

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Really, your going to answer with an exclamation point and you don't carry the part?
had some but need tomorrow check !
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After ongoing investigations, I went for the Futaba BLS 551.
It is brushless, low profile, plus good speed & torque (almost got a 451, but its not low profile).
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Great choice
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Old 08-09-2009, 02:00 PM   #17138
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Dear for everyone, in case i finished already my race day.
I could tell everybody today i have broken 4 set reversible suspension arms.
Unfortunately mostly crashes are just little touch at the wall and some somersault without any serious impact.
I don't know why, but i am doubt about the reliability of HB arms in the case i am the only 1 Cyclone of the main race and i am also the 1 with most time crashed then stopped during the mains, i have seen the others guys with tamiya cars with serious accident even fly through the corners and straights, but the still run without any serious damage.
Could somebody tell if is matter to change using HPI old version arms instead those HB origins reversible arms in fact are too fragile, if i want to have a reliable car, please?

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To be ohnest, theres not a great deal of difference at all in performance over the Old arms. If you are breaking the new ones alot then go to the old skool ones and give them a try
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Old 08-09-2009, 08:03 PM   #17139
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As for older and newer arms, the newer arms seems to have a higher content of graphite..more gray in color, making them stiffer, for higher bite traction surfaces.


We have installed the older pro4 arms, which almost look more black in color, meaning more plastic... allowing more flex, usually used on lower traction surfaces.

IMO most wont feel the differance between the softer arms and stiffer arms, but rather see less breakage...
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Old 08-10-2009, 01:35 AM   #17140
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A trick to avoid being broken is boiled in water, it will make them more flexible.
About 10 minutes, is more sufficient.

In other hand, i ran cyclone car from 2006, im very happy with results, and performance with it, but lately i wonder if this is being a little behind compared to other brands. Now, for me, is the moment to thinking about the car for next season, the last year, i make an unfortunate series of movements, with Team TOP, and TM, finally end the season with HB, i do not want it happening again.
Do you guys, think that this car is still ahead, or need some reform?

The last resuslts, in BRCA and Euros, Andy Moore not as fine as we have come.

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Old 08-10-2009, 03:20 AM   #17141
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luic,

for me the cyclone is still a great car that will perform with the big boys.
if you have one already that works why change and learn a different car all over again while your cyclone is still competitive?
just keep your parts fresh and the car will be fine.
as for andy moore in the brca, last year was not that good but this year he seems to be doing okay:
http://www.brca-tc.co.uk/index.php?o...news&Itemid=50
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Old 08-10-2009, 03:47 AM   #17142
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To be ohnest, theres not a great deal of difference at all in performance over the Old arms. If you are breaking the new ones alot then go to the old skool ones and give them a try
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As for older and newer arms, the newer arms seems to have a higher content of graphite..more gray in color, making them stiffer, for higher bite traction surfaces.


We have installed the older pro4 arms, which almost look more black in color, meaning more plastic... allowing more flex, usually used on lower traction surfaces.

IMO most wont feel the differance between the softer arms and stiffer arms, but rather see less breakage...
Thanks for reply.
But which number, could be possible #73506, isn't it?

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Old 08-10-2009, 04:03 AM   #17143
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Hi Luis,

I have just signed for HB/HPI Europe, after running the Xray car for a couple of seasons...

I was very impressed with the Cyclone the first time I ran it. It had a lot more natural steering than the Xray, and after dialling in some rear traction, I was immediately on the pace.

I do not think the Cyclone is behind, the car has been developed since it was first released, but they have only changed the parts that needed improvement!

I am sure the development of the car will continue, the UK team are playing with various parts at the moment and I beleive HB Japan will be working hard too. My advice would be to stick with the car, you will not be left behind
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Old 08-10-2009, 04:12 AM   #17144
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Thanks for reply.
But which number, could be possible #73506, isn't it?

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Yes thats the correct part number for the old style arms.

The old front arms are swept back, so you will need to shim them differently to the TC arms in order to maintain the same wheelbase. With the TC arms I run 2.75mm at the front and 0mm behind. With the old style wisbones I run 0.75mm at the front and 2mm behind.

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Old 08-10-2009, 04:19 AM   #17145
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Hello!

Wanted to get some info on how to improve initial turning, somehow it feels that my car is understeering in the very begining of turn.

We race somehow smooth med grip asphalt.

Haven't setup sheet with me now but as i remember have such settings:
I have WCE edition

Front
Spring: HPI pink
Oil: AE 50wt
Piston: 2hole (stock)
Camber link pos: long, 2mm shim
Camber: 2deg
Caster: 4deg
To block: 1.5
Shims under toe blocks: FF 1.0, FR 1.5
Droop: 5
Toe: 1 out
Wheelbase: F 0.7mm, R 2mm
Ackerman: 3mm
Front drive: diff
Swaybar: 1.4mm

Rear:
Spring: HPI silver
Oil: AE 50wt
Piston: 2hole (stock)
Camber link pos: long, 2mm shim
Camber: 2deg
Rear hub: 0 deg
To block: 2.5
Shims under toe blocks: RF 2.0, RR 2.0
Droop: 5
Wheelbase: F 0.7mm, R 2mm
Read drive: diff
Swaybar: no
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