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Old 04-30-2009, 12:10 PM   #16096
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What do you mean by upgraded rotor? The motors come with 12.3mm rotors which are basically a rpm rotor. The optional 13mm rotor offers more bottom end torque and less rpm. Due to the increased torque the motor can be geared higher to get the rpm back some. The bigger rotor also runs allot cooler than the smaller one. Also....if you start to race your motor will be illegal with the 13mm rotor.

Down here in my country the 13mm rotor its legal ...

My main concern its the weight of the cyclone S, even fully upgraded today i tested for 15 minutes at the track and it performs awesome, and some drivers saw it and told me the car was very very good, but on racing situation, how bad will be the extra weight ? ...

Now, it worth to get the fiber chassis and towers ?

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Old 04-30-2009, 03:25 PM   #16097
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I have the S as well. Where do the kit spring fall n term of stiffnes compared to the different black ones?
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Old 04-30-2009, 04:31 PM   #16098
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I have the S as well. Where do the kit spring fall n term of stiffnes compared to the different black ones?
blue spring- 15.3lb/in
kit silver spring- 16.9
pink spring - 18.0
kit gold spring - 19.0
white spring - 20.3
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Old 04-30-2009, 07:12 PM   #16099
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Old 05-01-2009, 01:03 PM   #16100
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I am so frustrated, my new Cyclone come with some defects: the 10mm washers and a small ring for diff come with little bit corrosive and before i open the bag, the other side of motor mount is scratched by other due the 2 parts is in same bag.
I am so disappointed with the quality of the HB, worse than Tamiya.
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Old 05-01-2009, 01:26 PM   #16101
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I know I'm a little biased, but I've never had that problem in any HPI/HB kit I've ever built. I've built A LOT of HPI kits in my time in racing/hobby. But honestly, those sound like some very minor complaints. I've built other kits that were much worse from other companies that I'll leave unnamed.

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Old 05-01-2009, 01:37 PM   #16102
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The only thing i could, is cover the top side of mount with decals, that i did already, or maybe i will change the flat 1 of RC Square if i could find in HK in Monday.
About the washer is not big deal, in case i have the spare 1 from aluminium diff cup, but i think is due the copper washer which made the corrosion of the silver 1, i guess.
About the other i want to tell is, also the spool/one way is not well made, the CNC machinering of HB didn't made well in round side of this part.
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Old 05-01-2009, 10:22 PM   #16103
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Ignore this guy....he tends to be a complainer all the time.Sell the car and move on to another thread to irritate others.Sell crazy someplace else.

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The only thing i could, is cover the top side of mount with decals, that i did already, or maybe i will change the flat 1 of RC Square if i could find in HK in Monday.
About the washer is not big deal, in case i have the spare 1 from aluminium diff cup, but i think is due the copper washer which made the corrosion of the silver 1, i guess.
About the other i want to tell is, also the spool/one way is not well made, the CNC machinering of HB didn't made well in round side of this part.
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Old 05-01-2009, 10:39 PM   #16104
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Without going back to the beginning of the thread, what does the different degrees of the front pivot blocks do (1.5, 2, 2.5, and 3)??
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Without going back to the beginning of the thread, what does the different degrees of the front pivot blocks do (1.5, 2, 2.5, and 3)??
Did you get a Cyclone? Finally got rid of the TC5????
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Without going back to the beginning of the thread, what does the different degrees of the front pivot blocks do (1.5, 2, 2.5, and 3)??
I ask this same question a few weeks ago and not one of the Cyclone so call racers didn't know or answer my question. It is for inboard toe out which is the same as toe out with the front tires but you don't have to say use 1deg toe out on the front tires instead using inboard toe and get the same result.
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Ignore this guy....he tends to be a complainer all the time.Sell the car and move on to another thread to irritate others.Sell crazy someplace else.
you wouldn't be upset about scratched anodized parts in your new kit?
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I ask this same question a few weeks ago and not one of the Cyclone so call racers didn't know or answer my question. It is for inboard toe out which is the same as toe out with the front tires but you don't have to say use 1deg toe out on the front tires instead using inboard toe and get the same result.
Changing the inner hinge pin angles does not have the same effect as changing toe at the wheels.
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It affects arm sweep-
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I ask this same question a few weeks ago and not one of the Cyclone so call racers didn't know or answer my question. It is for inboard toe out which is the same as toe out with the front tires but you don't have to say use 1deg toe out on the front tires instead using inboard toe and get the same result.
I'm sorry you didn't get the help you needed because your information isn't quite accurate. Korey will be along to explain arm sweep in great detail
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