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Old 01-28-2009, 11:08 PM   #15166
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The shop has them. Orion itself is out. I run for Orion so that's where I will get my speedo from. One of the locals is letting me run his Orion speedo so I'll still get to test it out at the next carpet race


It's on it's way. Have fun with her.
Cool , i didnt know you where a sponsored driver .
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Can't wait to get my hands on it
you went an did it! you got the TC. i WILL HAVE TO GET MY NOW.
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The shop has them. Orion itself is out. I run for Orion so that's where I will get my speedo from. One of the locals is letting me run his Orion speedo so I'll still get to test it out at the next carpet race


It's on it's way. Have fun with her.

Clint- I have some killer profiles that I set up for the Vortex ESC using my ICS system. Email me and i will send them to you to upload on your speedo. The ECS is awesome....if you program it correctly! You are going to need to make some adjustments with the ESC. So hit me up, becuase i didn't like the stock profiles, other than that the esc is very powerful!

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Cool , i didnt know you where a sponsored driver .
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Clint- I have some killer profiles that I set up for the Vortex ESC using my ICS system. Email me and i will send them to you to upload on your speedo. The ECS is awesome....if you program it correctly! You are going to need to make some adjustments with the ESC. So hit me up, becuase i didn't like the stock profiles, other than that the esc is very powerful!

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Old 01-29-2009, 09:51 AM   #15170
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The orion esc is sick! My buddy has had one for almost a month now and we finally got it dialed in his buggy. Im curious how there motor will do though. You Being motor man, will be interesting
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Old 01-29-2009, 12:06 PM   #15171
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wat is the diff with the 2.5 version over the 4.5, is it just the programing/software version?
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Old 01-29-2009, 02:35 PM   #15172
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wat is the diff with the 2.5 version over the 4.5, is it just the programing/software version?

The 4.5 version is just the speedo. The 2.5 version is the speedo with a heat sink and fan included.
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you went an did it! you got the TC. i WILL HAVE TO GET MY NOW.
I wish...I only got another black cyclone not the TC
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Old 01-29-2009, 10:38 PM   #15174
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Not just any black cyclone. You got a black cyclone, from a black man, that you will be running black tire's on Man I have too much time on my hands.
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Old 01-30-2009, 04:04 AM   #15175
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Guys

I have a setup question that I've never been able to answer by my own experiences... the track I race at sees its grip changing so much from the morning practice to the evening mains that I cannot isolate easily what handling changes come from grip changes vs. those from the car itself....

so here we go.

The question is: how does reducing wheelbase, via front or rear, change the handling characteristics of the cyclone?

In my theory books, reducing wheelbase from the rear leads to a more loaded rear end, which means more weight to the back on-throttle, ie more rear traction on-throttle. However it also means more overhangs, hence more "backpack" effect, ie the car is more prone to get into a drift from the rear (think off-throttle oversteer) and sustain if once the rear tires have lost traction.

Likewise, reducing wheelbase from the front should have the opposite effects - more front grip on throttle, and more understeer off throttle (you have to make that much more weight away from the front tires contract patch rotate around).

In both cases, a shorter wheelbase should mean a shorter turning radius no matter what (geometry 101), but I suspect this effect is marginal compared to those mentionned above.

What do you guys, who spend your lives at the track, think?

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Hi guys

always a lot of people to talk fdr but not that many to talk true setup changes impact... (just being a bit provocative here, but as usual this "technical" forum has a low S/N ratio...).

Anyone knowledgeable wants to take a crack at it? rc-pete? Korey?

thanks guys,
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Not just any black cyclone. You got a black cyclone, from a black man, that you will be running black tire's on Man I have too much time on my hands.
ok I'll give you that

I got the chassis yesterday Looks great!
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hi guys new at hotbodies im trying to find setup sheets for cyclone tc went to hpi-hotbodies website its all old andy moore setup. were can i go for hara and other setup for cyclone tc. thanks in advance.
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hi guys new at hotbodies im trying to find setup sheets for cyclone tc went to hpi-hotbodies website its all old andy moore setup. were can i go for hara and other setup for cyclone tc. thanks in advance.
you can try here - http://www.petitrc.com/view_news.php?id=4553

or here - http://www.gearchart.com
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Hi guys

always a lot of people to talk fdr but not that many to talk true setup changes impact... (just being a bit provocative here, but as usual this "technical" forum has a low S/N ratio...).

Anyone knowledgeable wants to take a crack at it? rc-pete? Korey?

thanks guys,
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OK so I first talked about wheelbase changes and how they effect cornering as a whole, which is where I usually use them, I understand you are asking what the effect of say shortening one side or the other and how that effects the characteristics of the car. Shortening the wheelbase from one side of the car brings the weight of the car closer to the axle, which in turn gives you more weight over that axle and more traction like your theory states. As you get more traction you also are changing the turning radius etc. So if you shorten the rear to get more traction, and run the track you may not see any performance gain if you still have the same steering throw as before due to the increase in turning radius which could still pull the rear of the car around. Hope that helps, and more of what you were looking for.

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ok I'll give you that

I got the chassis yesterday Looks great!

Glad yoy liked it. Sorry I put everything in zip lock bags. I wanted to keep my parts box. I haven't been able to find the same style again Call me cheap
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