USVTA Woes
06-11-2012, 01:56 PM
#196
Not sure if I have time for everyone's suggestions... Between growing up, learning to drive, building a new car out of milk cartons, water wings and dry erase marker caps, dying in a fire, swtiching to another class, and upping my reading comprehension, there are only so many hours in a day...
If you read the above statement and sarcasm is foreign to you, please delete whatever you are about to post, and go find me some vampire spines.
Myron, if you are coming out Wednesday, I'd much rather have help with setup and driving instead of teching your car for anything.
If you read the above statement and sarcasm is foreign to you, please delete whatever you are about to post, and go find me some vampire spines.
Myron, if you are coming out Wednesday, I'd much rather have help with setup and driving instead of teching your car for anything.
06-11-2012, 02:03 PM
#197
06-11-2012, 03:01 PM
#200
I just look at it and think"If you don't like the rules run a different class or get your track to run ROAR rules".At my local track they went to full USVTA rules,I wasn't thrilled but acquired the stuff to run.It has added several new racers and we lost 1.Seems like the current rules package work fine.
06-11-2012, 03:25 PM
#201
I just look at it and think"If you don't like the rules run a different class or get your track to run ROAR rules".At my local track they went to full USVTA rules,I wasn't thrilled but acquired the stuff to run.It has added several new racers and we lost 1.Seems like the current rules package work fine.
06-11-2012, 05:05 PM
#203
Why don't you guys just make this class 100% spec. hand out speedo, motor and batt? I know several guys that don't want to run this class because they already have so much "illegal" escs lying around. If VTA wants that much close racing at an affordable price, hand out electronics should be seriously considered.
People do things to handout stuff they otherwise wouldn't do to rented mules. The burden for what you suggest falls back on the RD, someone whos already overworked andunderpaid.
OR we could just adopt USVTA rules.
06-11-2012, 06:43 PM
#204
Have you ever ran a handout series? Or been a race director?
People do things to handout stuff they otherwise wouldn't do to rented mules. The burden for what you suggest falls back on the RD, someone whos already overworked andunderpaid.
OR we could just adopt USVTA rules.
People do things to handout stuff they otherwise wouldn't do to rented mules. The burden for what you suggest falls back on the RD, someone whos already overworked andunderpaid.
OR we could just adopt USVTA rules.
Handout electronics is just crazy expensive. I would rather have my own stuff. My only thing is that I know a bunch of people who want to run the series but are running TC instead of VTA. Why it costs more money to run VTA that it does TC for someone who is in the hobby. Lets say you have somone switching from off-road to on-road most likely their esc isnt compatible. So they are going to run TC before VTA. Odds are they have a 17.5 motor and an esc that can run blinky. All they need then is a chassis and your done. You take the same concept and then to run VTA you need to buy an esc, motor, and a chassis.
I LIKE VTA its interesting to watch but my only complaint is the class is very limiting to people who are already in the hobby.
06-11-2012, 07:03 PM
#205
It's also made a few companies happy by making some NOS parts needed again. It's a good class for a variety of reasons.
06-11-2012, 07:05 PM
#206
Handout is cool but I agree when it comes to running Handout atleast with brushed anything was fair game.
Handout electronics is just crazy expensive. I would rather have my own stuff. My only thing is that I know a bunch of people who want to run the series but are running TC instead of VTA. Why it costs more money to run VTA that it does TC for someone who is in the hobby. Lets say you have somone switching from off-road to on-road most likely their esc isnt compatible. So they are going to run TC before VTA. Odds are they have a 17.5 motor and an esc that can run blinky. All they need then is a chassis and your done. You take the same concept and then to run VTA you need to buy an esc, motor, and a chassis.
I LIKE VTA its interesting to watch but my only complaint is the class is very limiting to people who are already in the hobby.
Handout electronics is just crazy expensive. I would rather have my own stuff. My only thing is that I know a bunch of people who want to run the series but are running TC instead of VTA. Why it costs more money to run VTA that it does TC for someone who is in the hobby. Lets say you have somone switching from off-road to on-road most likely their esc isnt compatible. So they are going to run TC before VTA. Odds are they have a 17.5 motor and an esc that can run blinky. All they need then is a chassis and your done. You take the same concept and then to run VTA you need to buy an esc, motor, and a chassis.
I LIKE VTA its interesting to watch but my only complaint is the class is very limiting to people who are already in the hobby.
06-11-2012, 07:17 PM
#207
I was running off-road for about a year when I decided to switch to on-road. I was running 17.5 blinky buggy because it was supposed to be relatively equal. Well that wasn't the case. With the ESC's supposed to be in blinky mode there were people manipulating their speedos to blink even when using boost. Not sure which speedo they had. I switched to VTA because I never ran on-road and thought it would be a good transition. I found a good used chassis off rctech and bought the edge combo for 150 and was done. I was into it for under $400 bucks. I never once questioned the rules because they were just that"rules". Our track allows any 25.5 motor but I still run the ballistic. I have since joined 17.5 sedan and love it also. We all spend a ton of money on this hobby so I can't see why spending another $100 on an approved ESC is such a big deal. I have 2 Tekin RS and 1 RS pro. I use them in other cars and use what we are supposed to use. My car is 100% USVTA legal and I am still as fast or faster then some of the guys at our track running different motors and ESC's in blinky mode. I don't understand why this is such a huge deal to be rule compliant.
06-11-2012, 07:23 PM
#208
No woes at this track!!!!
I just look at it and think"If you don't like the rules run a different class or get your track to run ROAR rules".At my local track they went to full USVTA rules,I wasn't thrilled but acquired the stuff to run.It has added several new racers and we lost 1.Seems like the current rules package work fine.
Handout is cool but I agree when it comes to running Handout atleast with brushed anything was fair game.
Handout electronics is just crazy expensive. I would rather have my own stuff. My only thing is that I know a bunch of people who want to run the series but are running TC instead of VTA. Why it costs more money to run VTA that it does TC for someone who is in the hobby. Lets say you have somone switching from off-road to on-road most likely their esc isnt compatible. So they are going to run TC before VTA. Odds are they have a 17.5 motor and an esc that can run blinky. All they need then is a chassis and your done. You take the same concept and then to run VTA you need to buy an esc, motor, and a chassis.
I LIKE VTA its interesting to watch but my only complaint is the class is very limiting to people who are already in the hobby.
Handout electronics is just crazy expensive. I would rather have my own stuff. My only thing is that I know a bunch of people who want to run the series but are running TC instead of VTA. Why it costs more money to run VTA that it does TC for someone who is in the hobby. Lets say you have somone switching from off-road to on-road most likely their esc isnt compatible. So they are going to run TC before VTA. Odds are they have a 17.5 motor and an esc that can run blinky. All they need then is a chassis and your done. You take the same concept and then to run VTA you need to buy an esc, motor, and a chassis.
I LIKE VTA its interesting to watch but my only complaint is the class is very limiting to people who are already in the hobby.
Using the USVTA rules we now have about 12 VTA racers that have no problems with the equipment we have to use.........
It's called conformity
If you want to get a drivers license you follow the rules take a test and get the License WHY do you follow the rules CAUSE YOU WANT TO GET THE LICENSE
If YOU WANT TO RUN VTA THEN FOLLOW THE RULES AND RUN VTA if not go run another class that has no rules and you will see why THE USVTA rules work !!!!!!
Just my 0.2
I love this class and if they said I had to use bla bla bla to race in it that is what I would do cause guess what so does everybody that want to race in it
06-11-2012, 07:26 PM
#209
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I'm not trying to be difficult I'm stating my opinion. I have spent more than enough money on this hobby within the past two months. That includes 4 car kits, 3 Rs Pros, Batteries, Charger, Radio, etc. etc. I am personally tapped after I purchase my motors and the rest of my tires for the Nats for a little while on the hobby. Hense I said willing to trade motors I do have to get VTA legal but I am not going to spend any more money on a class other than 17.5, 13.5, and 12th scale until 2013. So if that means that I don't run VTA when we switch to indoors than I don't run VTA. If they do I will either trade a motor or I will be running a blinky esc. If I start beating everyone day in and day out I would welcome anyone to sit behind my computer and setup my hotwire any way they would like. (you know what I mean, not turning off forward)
http://www.speedpassion.net/shop/det...?p=12280&c=ESC
Last edited by MikeFrazer; 06-11-2012 at 07:27 PM. Reason: Forgot link for esc
06-11-2012, 07:33 PM
#210
I was running off-road for about a year when I decided to switch to on-road. I was running 17.5 blinky buggy because it was supposed to be relatively equal. Well that wasn't the case. With the ESC's supposed to be in blinky mode there were people manipulating their speedos to blink even when using boost. Not sure which speedo they had. I switched to VTA because I never ran on-road and thought it would be a good transition. I found a good used chassis off rctech and bought the edge combo for 150 and was done. I was into it for under $400 bucks. I never once questioned the rules because they were just that"rules". Our track allows any 25.5 motor but I still run the ballistic. I have since joined 17.5 sedan and love it also. We all spend a ton of money on this hobby so I can't see why spending another $100 on an approved ESC is such a big deal. I have 2 Tekin RS and 1 RS pro. I use them in other cars and use what we are supposed to use. My car is 100% USVTA legal and I am still as fast or faster then some of the guys at our track running different motors and ESC's in blinky mode. I don't understand why this is such a huge deal to be rule compliant.