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Old 12-15-2012, 06:45 PM   #691
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hi redbull

i notice in your post above (the one with the photo of the 104)the angle of the steering rods with the servo layed down on its back,with fitting the servo this way & being able to adjust it back & forth (before final mounting position) you can change the angle of the steering rods,is there any advantages to having them angled like yours as opposed to having them straight (which means the servo sits back a little further than yours) just curious as i have just purchaced a new 104 v2,as this is my first foray into f1 i have limited knowedge of them so i may be asking a few questions

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The further forward the links are mounted in the centre the less ackermann you will have.

The vertical servo, so the servo horn is in front, keeps the links as forward as possible at all times, so you get less ackermann angle and the outer wheel turns more when the steering is on full lock. The smaller difference in angle between the two wheels gives you a more aggressive turn in to the corner and more steering at high speed, but will reduce steering exiting corners.

A low profile servo mounted horizontally so the servo output is on top will give you a greater ackermann angle when cornering. This will give smoother and more consistent steering. Moving the servo far back will give a huge ackermann angle, which will give you less steering

BTW Moving the servo forwards and backwards will make no difference at all to the bump steer, that's only affected by the link mounting height. The standard vertical servo position will give you a small amount of bump steering, but only in a straight line. When cornering the links are raised up just as high as using a low profile servo so you have no bump steer problems when cornering.

Personally I race on a tight carpet track so use the standard vertical servo to give me lots of steering in the tight hairpins and can carry a lot of speed through the sweepers. Running on lower grip surfaces or a more open track a horizontal servo should be easier to drive.

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Old 12-16-2012, 12:02 PM   #692
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Today i had a great race with the V2, the car was great and handled awesome.
I TQ'd and won the race, i have converted the V2 to a wide version and it really is a great car to drive.
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Old 12-16-2012, 03:36 PM   #693
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Hi, Who can tell me the correct hardness for color about roll and pitch damper spring set?
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Is there any to make this car 200mm with the kit wheels?
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Old 12-16-2012, 10:55 PM   #695
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Black-Hard
Gold-Med
Silver-Soft
Pink-Extra Soft
Same combination as front springs, but with an extra soft spring
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Old 12-17-2012, 11:01 AM   #696
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I read somewhere on the "interweb" that there was a trick or fix to minimize the front spring compressing in the lower ball and sticking there.

Chassis doesn't do well when that happens.

Anyone experience this, or know what I mean?
Yes, had it happen.
I changed from the stock e-clip holding the spring on the bottom
to the original F104 c-ring #84171, works a charm!
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Yes, had it happen.
I changed from the stock e-clip holding the spring on the bottom
to the original F104 c-ring #84171, works a charm!
Awesome, thanks...
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hi i have a problem with my v2 and when you slowly put power on it wants to spin out diff is set just tight enough to not slip any ideas guys im really stuck on this
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Sounds like tires...what is your setup, what tires, and what conditions are you driving on?
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pit shimizu 575 rears and tamiya hard fronts we were trying to get the front to grip less in the heat we are having at the moment 45+ degrees on track and low traction dusty
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I'm pretty sure this is inaccurate, both pivot balls (Associated and Tamiya) are 5mm.

Certainly might make you feel better to replace the pivot balls, but I believe them to functionally identical.
hi guys...where can i get the ae pivot ball as well as the link...or do you guys have the item number for them..


Also, do you guys happen to have good setup for titc 2013?

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pit shimizu 575 rears and tamiya hard fronts we were trying to get the front to grip less in the heat we are having at the moment 45+ degrees on track and low traction dusty
You're from Invercargill, NZ, Cool !
Famous place

That is an odd tire combo
Have you tried 577Fr, with 575Rr, or 572Rr ?
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invercargill famous due to worlds fastest indian right???want some pics of the bike ?
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invercargill famous due to worlds fastest indian right???want some pics of the bike ?
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will sort out pics of the indian bike for you redbull,is it better to run rubbers or foams in low traction conditions and run it narrow(180mm) medium(190mm)wide)200mm) in low grip asphalt racing??
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