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Old 12-06-2012, 05:50 AM   #661
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I'm researching 21.5 motors for the f1 cars. Any recommendations for a motor with smooth and linear powerband? It seems it would be better to have a smooth motor with high rpm's than a punchy motor for these f1's.
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I'm researching 21.5 motors for the f1 cars. Any recommendations for a motor with smooth and linear powerband? It seems it would be better to have a smooth motor with high rpm's than a punchy motor for these f1's.
Very happy with my Thunderpower 21.5
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Yes, Asso do have a slightly different size. You have better use Asso balls with Asso links.
I'm pretty sure this is inaccurate, both pivot balls (Associated and Tamiya) are 5mm.

Certainly might make you feel better to replace the pivot balls, but I believe them to functionally identical.
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Old 12-06-2012, 07:01 AM   #664
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I'm pretty sure this is inaccurate, both pivot balls (Associated and Tamiya) are 5mm.

Certainly might make you feel better to replace the pivot balls, but I believe them to functionally identical.
From what I've heard Asso balls looked like they were 0,1mm smaller (or so) than Tamiya so the movement was not as smooth as Asso/Asso combination... I never tried the Tamiya balls/Asso links combination by myself just because of our club member's experience. But maybe it is wrong... or maybe it was becase of the compound of links.
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I'm pretty sure this is inaccurate, both pivot balls (Associated and Tamiya) are 5mm.

Certainly might make you feel better to replace the pivot balls, but I believe them to functionally identical.
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From what I've heard Asso balls looked like they were 0,1mm smaller (or so) than Tamiya so the movement was not as smooth as Asso/Asso combination... I never tried the Tamiya balls/Asso links combination by myself just because of our club member's experience. But maybe it is wrong... or maybe it was becase of the compound of links.
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The AE balls are smaller dia
You could use AE balls for Tamiya links, but would not recommend Tamiya pivot balls with AE links
Both Links and football on pod must be absolutely free and smooth, any drag will have a negative effect on performance

AE Links installed
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Very happy with my Thunderpower 21.5
I second that! my thunderpower is very strong and reliable.
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21.5 motor:

http://www.hobbyking.com/hobbyking/s...dProduct=21954

or find a used one, thats what I did. as long as its not burnt up it should be fine and last a long time
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I second that! my thunderpower is very strong and reliable.
Anyone tried the trinity d3.5 21.5 motor? Seems as the 17.5 is the *chit* right now so debating on the 21.5 version.

With 12.5 rotor or 12.3?
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Anyone tried the trinity d3.5 21.5 motor? Seems as the 17.5 is the *chit* right now so debating on the 21.5 version.

With 12.5 rotor or 12.3?
I'm running the stock D3.5. It's nice but I don't have the low end punch I really need. 12.5 HT rotor is a must for small technical tracks. More open tracks the stock BP rotor would probably be fine.

Both my 17.5 and 21.5 D3.5 motors make stupid rpm when maxed out too. These motors are definitely the best stock motors out right now. Even better is the Fantom motors, or building a 5% Certified motor from Trinity.
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I'm running the stock D3.5. It's nice but I don't have the low end punch I really need. 12.5 HT rotor is a must for small technical tracks. More open tracks the stock BP rotor would probably be fine.

Both my 17.5 and 21.5 D3.5 motors make stupid rpm when maxed out too. These motors are definitely the best stock motors out right now. Even better is the Fantom motors, or building a 5% Certified motor from Trinity.
Yeah im looking for some punch. I tried the d3 17.5 with 12.3 rotor and it seemed as no balls on low end but from midrange to top it was like off or on switch and shocked the tires and spin out.

I ran silver can and that was worst. No punch
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Sorry for my bad english but what do guys mean when You say that car pushed? Some kind of understeer or ...?



Yes, Asso do have a slightly different size. You have better use Asso balls with Asso links.
Push = Understeer
Loose = Oversteer
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I'm researching 21.5 motors for the f1 cars. Any recommendations for a motor with smooth and linear powerband? It seems it would be better to have a smooth motor with high rpm's than a punchy motor for these f1's.
thunderpower is a great choice. 2012 UF1 winter, summer and carpet national champion!
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Old 12-08-2012, 09:04 AM   #674
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Not as good Q as Tamiya, but more reasonably priced (E-bay)





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hi redbull

i notice in your post above (the one with the photo of the 104)the angle of the steering rods with the servo layed down on its back,with fitting the servo this way & being able to adjust it back & forth (before final mounting position) you can change the angle of the steering rods,is there any advantages to having them angled like yours as opposed to having them straight (which means the servo sits back a little further than yours) just curious as i have just purchaced a new 104 v2,as this is my first foray into f1 i have limited knowedge of them so i may be asking a few questions

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