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Old 11-14-2012, 06:55 AM   #586
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I can't find a good balance between off power spin outs and on power push. Hoping adding weight will give me a wider setup window.

And since almost everything is legal here, any suggestions on treating the Pardus handout tires? Sanding? Softening?

Thanks everyone.
We run the Pardus tires as a spec tire on carpet and they seem to get pretty sticky using the SXT sauce. I didn't sand or anything prior, just a run to break them in. Also in my experience the fronts feel like they provide more grip throughout the day then the rears.

But good tires so far, can't beat the price!!
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VERY NICE built sir. I just want to ask how you managed to have that matte finish on both the side pods platform. Thanks and Cheers!
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Old 11-14-2012, 04:02 PM   #588
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The side pods were finished from the outside with a matt black water based enamel that I mixed up here at work. I used a lot of hot weather thinners to get it to flow off the brush and applied three coats, you can't tell its brushed at all.
It has dried quite hard, if it does get a scratch it will show the shiny black from underneath but a touch up isn't hard to do.
At the end of the day it's a race car first, show pony second!
The main body is a gold metallic colour that I added black and red pigment to, so it looks cola coloured in the shaded parts but has nice gold highlights in the sun.
Go Lotus
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Very nice...If you paint the rim up to where the wheel lip would normally be with that flat black it might even make the sidewalls look the right height. The Pit Shimizu rubber tires have part of the tire overlap that area to give the wheel/tire a more scale appearance.
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Hey Rob (and everyone else)

I've watched a lot of the videos on your rcf1 blog channel and have a few questions that others may want to know too.

Does your weight distribution for the F104 carry over to the F104v2?
Not really. The lead was really for a TCS spec car on Tamiya's original tires. The Pit and "TCS" tamiya tires are light years better, so the lead is not really needed. You can also help the rear grip by pulling out the center screw on a t bar car, which is illegal for TCS.

The V2 seems like it has some more side bite...but I have not run it a ton on asphalt.

Will more weight over the front axles cause mid and exit corner push?
It should help on power steering. It should also slow down how quick the car reacts. Maybe less rotation, more rear weight makes the car act more like a pendulum.


Why put 60g on rear chassis instead of the rear pod?
Its sprung weight that way, so you're not trying to control an extra 60g with the spring and t bar. Also, the car was really designed for NIMH cells, which probably weighed that much more anyway.

What are the two effects?
Not sure what you mean, I haven't watched the video in a while..

This is a reaction to Rsector releasing that metal pod and diffuser.

I can't find a good balance between off power spin outs and on power push. Hoping adding weight will give me a wider setup window.

Reduce rear droop (~1mm) and keep front droop down as well (.5-1mm). You might want to motor boat the car, low rear ride height, high front.

And since almost everything is legal here, any suggestions on treating the Pardus handout tires? Sanding? Softening?

Thanks everyone.

Hope this helps
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v2 or v2pro
i'm looking to buy a new 104,as i have not had a 104 before i thought i would as the question, a v2 104 or v2104 pro ?.we mainly run on low to med grip outdoor surfaces with rubber tires,blinky 21.5 or 17.5
any advise or sugestions appreciated,thanks

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I believe there is only 1 release of the V2
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I believe there is only 1 release of the V2
i have misread something then,thank you for clearing that up
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Thanks

The side pods were finished from the outside with a matt black water based enamel that I mixed up here at work. I used a lot of hot weather thinners to get it to flow off the brush and applied three coats, you can't tell its brushed at all.
It has dried quite hard, if it does get a scratch it will show the shiny black from underneath but a touch up isn't hard to do.
At the end of the day it's a race car first, show pony second!
The main body is a gold metallic colour that I added black and red pigment to, so it looks cola coloured in the shaded parts but has nice gold highlights in the sun.
Go Lotus
Thanks and cheers, sir. I'll leave mine then. Sounds complicated for me, haha.
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Default New Tamiya TCS rear tires;

Sorry if this were mentioned before, but I've seen conflicting procedures so I thought I would ask here.

The rear TCS tires (re-branded Shimizu's I'm told) comes with a tongue and groove foam strip.

Am I to just lay this in the tire loose or fasten the foam strip to the wheel before mounting? I've never seen a strip of foam like this before. The front TCS set has a more standard foam doughnut, so no questions there...
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I used rubber cement to connect the foam ends together then laid a piece of tape underneath the splice to aid in keeping it together, as far as I can tell it never came apart.
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I used rubber cement to connect the foam ends together then laid a piece of tape underneath the splice to aid in keeping it together, as far as I can tell it never came apart.
Do you then leave the strip loose within the tire carcass?
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Do you then leave the strip loose within the tire carcass?
Yes
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So don't drill holes on the wheels?
Yes, for me don't drill holes. I've tested both with holes (tire grooved within 10 minutes) vs. no holes (tire wear is good, handling better).

Just be careful not to squeeze the tire as the air might escape and cause deformation. If so, let air back in, then re-seal the area.

Easy to try. Run it with the holes. Then seal the holes with tape. See which you prefer and go with that.

This is for Pit 575 rear tires.

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Old 11-20-2012, 07:41 AM   #600
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For those who use Carbon Rear Bulkhead Plate #54375 - do You use 1,5mm shim when attaching rear wing? It looks there's no need to use shims but is there any difference in downforce when the wing is set backwards?
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