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Old 08-05-2012, 05:23 AM   #286
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Would the F104 PRO ver.II be able to keep up with the F103's or the F104W(GP)'s?
Cause here in my country we have a mixed field of cars at the race and i don't want to spend money on a car that's only capable of following while it's not able to compete for the first place.
I've been reading a lot of good comments about this car and i'm one click away of buying the car but i just want to make sure it is capable of competing against the F103's etc.
Very easy to transform in F103 200 mm width, just spend 25$ in a front F103 axle, thatīs all and you need to have a link with springs system in your F103 verII spec car.
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Old 08-05-2012, 05:35 AM   #287
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Another race day with the F104 V2 and again the links failed me. Broke one associated link, and broke the "football". Well the lower plastic part (tamiya) of what holds the middle pivot ball in.

Didn't even have a crash. Lightly grazed a a wall and that was it, game over. Out came the trusty original F104 Pro and that as the saying goes was history.

This car drives excellent and has lots of tunability but it seems the link arrangement is very fragile. Anyone else finding this?
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Old 08-05-2012, 05:59 AM   #288
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Another race day with the F104 V2 and again the links failed me. Broke one associated link, and broke the "football". Well the lower plastic part (tamiya) of what holds the middle pivot ball in.

Didn't even have a crash. Lightly grazed a a wall and that was it, game over. Out came the trusty original F104 Pro and that as the saying goes was history.

This car drives excellent and has lots of tunability but it seems the link arrangement is very fragile. Anyone else finding this?
I've broken the link and centre pivot ball once in about 6 weeks of racing (racing weekly). That was after getting hit side on, coming to a stop then getting hit a 2nd time side on by another car in the pack.

My f103 exotek that uses associated links hasn't broken one yet in 2-3 months and that has had a few big crashes.

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Would the F104 PRO ver.II be able to keep up with the F103's or the F104W(GP)'s?
Cause here in my country we have a mixed field of cars at the race and i don't want to spend money on a car that's only capable of following while it's not able to compete for the first place.
I've been reading a lot of good comments about this car and i'm one click away of buying the car but i just want to make sure it is capable of competing against the F103's etc.
It is faster than my f103 exotek conversion.
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Old 08-05-2012, 07:04 AM   #289
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Yeah J-Pap. Now that oyu mention it, my EXOF104 with associated side links had some major crashes and never had any problems with the side links. Perhaps i should go the way 3racing did and get side links made from a turnbuckle? it will be a lot stronger that way, but if something went wrong it would bend or damage other parts of the car (ie tear out the ball from the chassis are require a new chassis to be bought)
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Yeah J-Pap. Now that oyu mention it, my EXOF104 with associated side links had some major crashes and never had any problems with the side links. Perhaps i should go the way 3racing did and get side links made from a turnbuckle? it will be a lot stronger that way, but if something went wrong it would bend or damage other parts of the car (ie tear out the ball from the chassis are require a new chassis to be bought)
Have a look at bmi flex links. Instead of side springs it uses a thin strip of carbon. May be worthwhile option.
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Old 08-05-2012, 08:47 AM   #291
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Would the F104 PRO ver.II be able to keep up with the F103's or the F104W(GP)'s?
Cause here in my country we have a mixed field of cars at the race and i don't want to spend money on a car that's only capable of following while it's not able to compete for the first place.
I've been reading a lot of good comments about this car and i'm one click away of buying the car but i just want to make sure it is capable of competing against the F103's etc.
if the driver can keep up with them the car should.
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What is the purpose of making a 1mm hole on the damper cap?
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if the driver can keep up with them the car should.
I don't have the problem of keeping up with the others but there is a difference between a F103 and a F104 on the track and that's what you notice.
From my experience i have a better feeling with the F104PRO then with the F104W and that's why i'm considering to buy a F104 PRO ver.II over a F104WGP.
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Old 08-05-2012, 02:15 PM   #294
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Another race day with the F104 V2 and again the links failed me. Broke one associated link, and broke the "football". Well the lower plastic part (tamiya) of what holds the middle pivot ball in.

Didn't even have a crash. Lightly grazed a a wall and that was it, game over. Out came the trusty original F104 Pro and that as the saying goes was history.

This car drives excellent and has lots of tunability but it seems the link arrangement is very fragile. Anyone else finding this?
With the links closer to the center of the car the rear pod is going to put more torque on them when you do hit or brush stuff which is going to make it easier to break the links. Back in the EV10 days I even broke a few of the turn buckle ones. Turn buckles are going to be stronger but man are they a pain in the butt to get set right.

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Have a look at bmi flex links. Instead of side springs it uses a thin strip of carbon. May be worthwhile option.
I'm running those on my Exotek F1R and they work fine...I was even able to find a way to lower the link so all but the pivot now fits under the body
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any build logs for the ver2?
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In the setup sheet that Fred posted for the Tamiya track, he lists the shock oil he's using as 900. Is this CST, or does anyone know what shock oil he is using?

I'm trying to get a baseline asphalt setup on my car.
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any build logs for the ver2?
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In the setup sheet that Fred posted for the Tamiya track, he lists the shock oil he's using as 900. Is this CST, or does anyone know what shock oil he is using?

I'm trying to get a baseline asphalt setup on my car.
We are using Tamiya 900wt Silicon shock oil, that is the clear bottle that comes with the kit
I don't have a cst standards chart handy for all the brands, but I'm pretty sure Tamiya silicons are in line with most
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What is the purpose of making a 1mm hole on the damper cap?
It's to create a vent hole for when the shock shaft goes into the cap it doesn't create necessary pressure and increase damping rate. So when you compress the shock, the shaft wont rebound (w/o a spring). (poor explanation but its the best I could do with my limited knowledge)
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....I'm running those on my Exotek F1R and they work fine...I was even able to find a way to lower the link so all but the pivot now fits under the body
I will appreciate if you can post some photos.

Where can we buy the carbon links?
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