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Old 12-05-2013, 10:33 AM   #1546
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But i actually had a question, in the page, it has "Includes Associated side pod springs. These are used to tune for steering response and pod level (tweak)."

Have i been using these springs all wrong??? i knew about the pod tweak, but I still have the issue of the rear inner wheel lifting in tight turns after the apex, i thought putting stiff springs here would help, but it made no change, so these affect the FRONT??
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But i actually had a question, in the page, it has "Includes Associated side pod springs. These are used to tune for steering response and pod level (tweak)."

Have i been using these springs all wrong??? i knew about the pod tweak, but I still have the issue of the rear inner wheel lifting in tight turns after the apex, i thought putting stiff springs here would help, but it made no change, so these affect the FRONT??
As you know the spring itself doesn't adjust pod tweak, but the set screw that winds them in and out does.

I have run both Tamiya and Associated side springs on my F104 V2. Little difference between them to be honest. In my experience the side springs fine-tune how the rear works in the corner - the oil in the side shock makes a much bigger difference. I now run the Tamiya friction damper which gives a much more consistent feel.

For the lifting rear wheel I'd be looking at front end changes: tyres, front springs, making sure front pin moves freely, center shock oil and spring. Worth making sure the rear ride height isn't too big as well.

Hope that helps. You will also find a lot of good information in online F1 set up sheets - UF1 and rcformula1 are great resources for these
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Try disconnecting 1 side of roll damper. Take a few laps and see if this improves or worsens the tire lifting. If it improves, go lighter on roll damper fluid and if it worsens go heavier on fluid. Also, what roll damper are you using?
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I'm using the kit stock damper and oil from the Dark edition f104V2
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If the wheel is lifting you have couple things to try:
Lots of front droop
Heavy side damper grease 100k or more on a tube damper
Move the battery as far forward as possible
Glue on sidewalls of fronts
Start widening car front first
Raise ballstud on inside of top arm at camber plate
Reduce caster if using exotek front end
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Old 12-10-2013, 10:40 AM   #1551
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Are the new diff rings the v.2 uses really any better than the original f104 pro ones?

I wonder as a diff kit old ring style is only $28.99

and the new v.2 parts add up to $54.13

I am building a F1R2 car from scratch
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Are the new diff rings the v.2 uses really any better than the original f104 pro ones?

I wonder as a diff kit old ring style is only $28.99

and the new v.2 parts add up to $54.13

I am building a F1R2 car from scratch
I don't know if there better than the old style rings or not. They look better coming out of the package than the older f103/104 rings. Most of time mine looked pitted and/or discolored. The newer rings look way better.

I do know the new rings are the same as the 417 sedan. I'm assuming Tamiya went with a universal set to reduce production and inventory cost.
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I don't have any pitted rings of the old type. The new ones are the same material. There is no performance difference between the two. Most likely Tamiya are just phasing out the old type.
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Maybe mine were just too old since some of the kits I'm referring to date back to 1993
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If the wheel is lifting you have couple things to try:
Lots of front droop
Heavy side damper grease 100k or more on a tube damper
Move the battery as far forward as possible
Glue on sidewalls of fronts
Start widening car front first
Raise ballstud on inside of top arm at camber plate
Reduce caster if using exotek front end
I made my own front arms to have the caster adjustable, i will reduce the caster.

- Basically, the rear wheels are lifting because i have too much front grip?
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I made my own front arms to have the caster adjustable, i will reduce the caster.

- Basically, the rear wheels are lifting because i have too much front grip?
Yes. Something else to try is a stiffer center spring.
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Hello all...got a v2 coming in the mail. I feel a little lost jumping into f1 since I run sedans and sct's. So what spare parts are good to have? I apologize if this has been answered earlier in this thread. Thanks in advance!
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Hello all...got a v2 coming in the mail. I feel a little lost jumping into f1 since I run sedans and sct's. So what spare parts are good to have? I apologize if this has been answered earlier in this thread. Thanks in advance!
It's best to have some suspension arms, front&roll springs and the side links (it's better to change them with the carbon reinforced ones)
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Has anyone drilled their stock chassis to move the links out? Like on the exotek flex chassis?
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